How plentiful are cross members

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2013: How plentiful are cross members
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rob from Nova Scotia on Sunday, October 27, 2013 - 08:24 pm:

I just acquired the frame for a 13 RHD. The front and rear cross members are toast. Are they available? will later ones fit?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By A. Gustaf Bryngelson on Sunday, October 27, 2013 - 09:09 pm:

There are quite a few members here who get cross if you bring up the topic of water pumps.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jack Daron - Brownsburg IN on Sunday, October 27, 2013 - 09:24 pm:

Is your frame the early one or later? The front X-member is easy,but that early rear member is going to be a search.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ricks - Surf City on Sunday, October 27, 2013 - 09:49 pm:

At some point early on, they made the front crossmember beefier. A purist would care if a light one were replaced with a heavy one.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf, Parkerfield KS on Sunday, October 27, 2013 - 10:11 pm:

From the encyclopedia:

1913-1920

Initially the same as the 1911 chassis. About January 1913 two additional rear body brackets were added for the Touring body, under the rear door ahead of the rear seat. These brackets were used only in 1913 and only on the Touring bodies. Longer rear cross-member, beginning about 271,425 (May 1913), eliminating the forged body brackets. Early rear cross-members were relatively flat across the top surface; not raised as in the later versions. While using the same parts, holes were added for the new front body brackets in mid-1916, and for the battery bracket, starter switch, and battery cable support beginning in 1919. Beginning about March 19, 1919, the “Ford” logo began to be imprinted on the front cross member.


I guess which cross members you use will depend on whether you're going for before or after #271,425.

I used a 1919 or later front for my 1915 (with the Ford logo) and the fit was perfect. Only the nitpickers will notice or care.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Les Schubert on Monday, October 28, 2013 - 12:09 am:

I will assume the rear crossmember is for use with the bolt on brackets?
Maybe you can find a skilled welder who can fix what you have. I think that would be my first choice. Alternatively maybe I should buy it from you as I have been accumulating parts to build another RHD car.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rob from Nova Scotia on Monday, October 28, 2013 - 07:32 am:

Gustaf I reread your post after I had my coffee! Brilliant humour


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rob from Nova Scotia on Monday, October 28, 2013 - 07:33 am:

I will however post pictures of my haul later. Maybe get some ideas from the masses


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jim Sims on Monday, October 28, 2013 - 09:04 am:

Rob, I think I may have one of the cross members you need. The problem is that I live in Michigan and shipping it to you might be a big problem. If all else fails, contact me.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ricks - Surf City on Monday, October 28, 2013 - 09:18 am:

Les, I have a 1911 frame I'll sell, complete with spare front crossmember. Will you be driving through in the spring?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rob from Nova Scotia on Monday, October 28, 2013 - 10:13 am:

How much jim? I have a good friend in maine. Makes shipping very cheap


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Les Schubert on Monday, October 28, 2013 - 12:33 pm:

Ralph
Well, you see, I have a 6 rivet rear axle and a 1912 block etc with RHD parts, a steering column, RHD brake lever, windshield, a restored brass radiator. Getting close to being enough parts to build a car!!! And a set of wooden wheels with front brakes!!
I'm not sure on my schedule at the moment, but possibly.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jim Sims on Monday, October 28, 2013 - 08:41 pm:

Rob if you email me your email address I will send a photo to see if it is correct. If it is $20.oo U.S. plus shipping


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