Gas Resistant Paint - Any Recommendations

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2013: Gas Resistant Paint - Any Recommendations
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jim Kelsey on Monday, October 28, 2013 - 04:35 pm:

I had a successful run with the Kingston Gasifier yesterday, but it was leaking gas out the "Vaporizer" or "I-shaped" neck when I went to start the car (I am still getting used to the settings). According to Jim Mahaffey, it should not leak and there should be gaskests between each seam. I disassembled it late last night and discovered that there were not any gaskets there, just Permatex. I cleaned everything up, made new gaskets and reassembled the neck and bowl last night.

Now I need to paint it. Does anyone have a recommendation for a paint that will not dissolve when in contact with gasoline? Thanks.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steven Thum on Monday, October 28, 2013 - 04:54 pm:

The only way that I have found to make the paint stick when gasoline gets on it is to bake it. I spray the carb with enamel then bake it for 15 minutes at about 400 degrees. The wife is not happy with me doing this but the paint does not seem to dissolve when gas gets on it and she understands the need.

Steven


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Les Schubert on Monday, October 28, 2013 - 05:05 pm:

So that works OK for a carb, but what can you use for a gas tank (on the outside)?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bob Gruber- Spanaway, Wash. on Monday, October 28, 2013 - 06:13 pm:

When I use my wife's oven to bake things or dishwasher for carb and other parts (works great by the way) I find it's easier to ask forgiveness than permission.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Cary Abate on Monday, October 28, 2013 - 06:46 pm:

My wife says I can use anything in my garage. But stay the bleep out of her kitchen. I did have a fleeting thought about using the KitchenAid dishwasher once for carburetor cleaner but I got over that. Boy that steam unit would've worked beautifully. Sometimes I think even the government is afraid of my wife.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dick Fischer on Monday, October 28, 2013 - 07:36 pm:

For baking small stuff like carburetor parts, you can just go to the local Goodwill store and buy a used toaster oven. Dirt cheap and you can keep it in the garage. Your wife won't want to borrow it after you have baked a few paint jobs anyway.

Dick


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark Gregush Portland Oregon on Monday, October 28, 2013 - 07:38 pm:

Lacquer seems to hold up. No wife to worry about so I have melted tar and dried paint in the oven. :-) With the back door open never really noticed that bad of an smell. :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Gary H. White - Sheridan, MI on Monday, October 28, 2013 - 07:58 pm:

"Hot Fuel Proof Dope" (if still available, been a long time)used by model airplane builders should work.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark Strange on Monday, October 28, 2013 - 08:08 pm:

I was going to suggest the same thing, model airplane fuel is mostly methanol with anywhere from 10 to 30% nitromethane blended in, so modern gasoline/ethanol blends shouldn't be a challenge for "Hot Fuel Proof Dope".


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By JAMES STARKEY Naperville, IL on Monday, October 28, 2013 - 08:33 pm:

Howdy Jim,
Here's a fool-proof product that comes in a variety of colors. It works! You can find it offered by loads of vendor sources if you goggle it:

Moeller Color Vision Engine & Fuel tank paint

Here's the OEM website:

http://www.moellermarine.com/aftermarket/marine_paints/color_vision/

or here's a vendor example

http://www.starmarinedepot.com/moeller-color-vision-engine-paint-fuel-tank-red.h tml?gclid=CPPnqeXjuroCFU1gMgodywYARQ

P.S. You don't need to find an antique 'Easy Bake Oven' on eBay either.
Jimmy


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jim Kelsey on Monday, October 28, 2013 - 09:27 pm:

Thanks all - I just ordered the Moeller Neptune Black locally! I really appreciate all of the creative ideas. Let's hope this stuff works.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By bob meneely on Monday, October 28, 2013 - 10:43 pm:

Can't believe nobody mentioned POR-15. This stuff is bulletproof on a carb.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Peter Kable on Tuesday, October 29, 2013 - 02:43 am:

any 2 part urethane enamel will not be affected by gas. No need to bake though you can just mix as directed and allow to dry, the hardener will cure the paint as if it was baked. So you don't need a big oven to put the gas tank in.

On automobiles the paint is baked on the assembly line, once put together plastic parts and others can't take the baking heat so now a hardener based finish is used to equal the qualities of the original when repairing it. Lacquer will redissolve if contacted by most solvents.

You don't see any effect from gasoline on todays cars if it has gas spilt on it.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By David Stroud on Tuesday, October 29, 2013 - 09:03 am:

Les, I used Rustoleum Cold Galvanizing paint on the gas tank on my TT several years ago. It has held up very well. Just a thought. Dave


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf, Parkerfield KS on Tuesday, October 29, 2013 - 09:16 am:

I've used plain old black Rustoleum on carbs. No problem when gasoline gets on it.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Adam Doleshal on Tuesday, October 29, 2013 - 11:04 am:

Most professional paints have specific instructions on "baking". Usually somewhere in the 130 to 150 degree F range for 15-30 minutes...

With that said, I have never had any issues with properly applied DuPont or PPG paint products. If you are painting a fuel tank that is galvanized, you need to use the proper primer. I believe that new tanks are galvanized (zinc coated steel) and that some original tanks may be made of terne-plate (solder coated steel).


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Les Schubert on Tuesday, October 29, 2013 - 11:36 am:

I picked up a almost new wall oven at a garage sale and installed it in my shop (only needed a 2 pole 30 amp breaker and 10 gauge wire). Up till now I have used it for baking cores for sand casting, preheating rods and caps etc. for babbitting. Now I see that baking painted parts might work too. It will go to 500F so might even work for small powder coating.
My problem is I have a speedster gas tank and a Stanley gas tank that both need painting this winter. The Stanley had been painted with some kind of Urethane but it was peeling around the fuel filler. Maybe because it was a copper tank and wasn't prepared properly. I don't know.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bill dugger on Tuesday, October 29, 2013 - 11:44 am:

NEWSPAPER HEADLINE

Carey abate is resting in hospital from injuries at home. Cause has not been determined but wife is prime suspect. It is said that Carey was going to use some of the kitchen or laundry equipment for cleaning Model T parts and that did not go over to well with said wife. He is expected to make a full recovery.
" WISH HIM A speedy recovery"


Just kidding Carey


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By JAMES STARKEY Naperville, IL on Tuesday, October 29, 2013 - 07:39 pm:

Peter:
On automobiles the paint is baked on the assembly line,
You don't see any effect from gasoline on todays cars if it has gas spilt on it.


There's a good reason Peter, nearly all auto manufactures now use the new generation of waterborne paints. It contains a suspended latex core which is highly resistant to fuel & acids. I currently work exclusively with PPG waterborne Aquabase & Envirobase products. Amazing stuff.
Jimmy


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Peter B. Ratledge on Tuesday, October 29, 2013 - 08:31 pm:

Hi Jim,
I have a 1911 T and I'm running a 5 ball carb, and it leaks sometimes. My engine pans are painted with VHT Epoxy Paint out of a spray can.
The paint is self priming all weather rust and salt resistant. Once it has dried and cured the gas leaking doesn't seem to affect it.
The web address: www.vhtpaint.com
I also use this paint on my engine. You can spray it and touch up any place anytime, and it works well.
Hope this will help you.
Pete


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Terry Woods, Katy, Texas on Tuesday, October 29, 2013 - 08:36 pm:

Snyder's sells gloss black lacquer for carbs.


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