Oh my - my crank is too short

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2013: Oh my - my crank is too short
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tex Holtby on Thursday, October 31, 2013 - 06:51 am:

Its not what your thinking! I installed my crank handle last night on the 25 runabout. When I installed the spring on the crank it does not allow for full engagement to crank the engine (there was no spring previously). I'm wondering if the crank handle had been modified (end is slightly dog eared). It measures 6 inches from the center of the pin hole to the first bend in the handle (1/2 inch from the center of the pin hole to the end of the crank). Too short? Thanks guys, Tex


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bob Jablonski on Thursday, October 31, 2013 - 07:39 am:

Tex:

"Crank Envy" ??

Aside from being bashful, I measure 6.5 inches from the pin center to the inside bend on the crank..... pin center to end measures the same.

You could wait till the sun shines to warm things up a bit to hand start... LOL .... Drafty ???

Past history could have had the crank modified by the driver running into something to bend hand crank, maybe repeatedly since made, and machine bent back to useable shape ?? Who knows ?

Is the offending unit hitting the license plate ? That could be a problem ?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Thomas Mullin on Thursday, October 31, 2013 - 09:53 am:

Tex,

Check and see if the bushing the crank turns in has moved. Mine keeps shifting forward as I drive until I don't get engagement of the ratchet reliably. I take a drift punch and hammer and move it back where it belongs - about 1/2" movement.

Keep those under the floor mat.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jem Bowkett on Thursday, October 31, 2013 - 10:46 am:

Yup, I get that, bushing slides forward, crank slips out and you bash your chin on the rad.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tex Holtby on Thursday, October 31, 2013 - 11:15 am:

Tom - I did install a new bushing and set it flush with the front of the nosing (appears that is how it should be set). Upon installing the spring on the crank I found that as it is compressed it wont allow for the proper engagement.

Bob - Based on your measurements it looks like the crank is a 1/2 inch too short. That extra 1/2 inch looks like is what is needed. Anybody have a extra crank (for a 23) that they would like to sell???

Thanks, Tex


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bob Jablonski on Thursday, October 31, 2013 - 01:35 pm:

Tex:

The crank you have may have been cut at the pin hole and then re-drilled for use ??? My guess is a worn bushing area on crank was fixed by cutting and re-drilling for a better fit, instead of replacing the bushing, which could be a real PITA.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Larry Noller on Thursday, October 31, 2013 - 01:40 pm:

The crank on my 24 Roadster was an 1 1/2 too short so I had to cut it and weld in a section. I guess some of them shrink!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Keith Gumbinger, Kenosha, WI on Thursday, October 31, 2013 - 02:43 pm:

The crank on one of my T's hit the license plate when engaged, so I, too, welded in a piece to make it longer. End of problem. Also, you'd never know that the crank is longer than stock by looking at it.

Keith


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tex Holtby on Thursday, October 31, 2013 - 08:22 pm:

Looks like the best fix is to just weld in a new section to make up the proper length. Now I know why the previous owner had no spring on it!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bob Jablonski on Thursday, October 31, 2013 - 08:28 pm:

Tex:

I have a hand crank, but needs work to check 90 degree angles on the bends


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tex Holtby on Thursday, October 31, 2013 - 08:32 pm:

Bob - I sent you a personal message.

Tex


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bob Jablonski on Thursday, October 31, 2013 - 09:30 pm:

Acknowledged Tex.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ricks - Surf City on Thursday, October 31, 2013 - 09:39 pm:

When we got the Speedster with windsplitter radiator, it had an extension brazed on it. After that failed a couple of times, I found a longer crank for something at a swapmeet, and cut it to just clear the rad.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Frank Harris from Long Beach & Big Bear on Thursday, October 31, 2013 - 11:56 pm:

I am building a bus using a T T frame and am moving the radiator back using two front cross members. I will have to lengthen the crank handle.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tex Holtby on Friday, November 08, 2013 - 07:34 am:

A warm thank you to Bob Jablonski for sending me one of his spare crank handles! USPS delivered it to the house yesterday "Thanks again Bob". Warning slight thread drift - I visit this site almost daily and have gained a tremendous amount of knowledge on model t's from you guys. I start to feel like I actually know everyone just from reading the posts without ever actually meeting anyone. Then you post a question and immediately get numerous suggestions on how to remedy the problem or a needed part shows up at your door. How great is that? Thanks again everyone for all of the "free" knowledge..... This club is the BEST!Tex


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