RHD tie rod wanted

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2013: RHD tie rod wanted
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Matt Foye on Friday, November 01, 2013 - 04:50 pm:

I was told I can heat and bend a LHD and make it work ,but really prefer one that I haven't messed up as I have a knack for ruining things... Looking for a correct, decent RHD tie rod. thanks. Any leads are greatly appreciated. thanks


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Andrew Brand on Friday, November 01, 2013 - 05:29 pm:

Hi Matt

By tie rod I think of 2717 spindle connecting rod. Do you mean that or 2725 steering gear connecting rod? In any case I'd avoid bending anything. The spindle connecting rod can be modified depending on what year you need. I probably have the rod you need but postage from Australia would be expensive.

Andrew


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Les Schubert on Friday, November 01, 2013 - 06:28 pm:

I converted a LH one about 10 years ago. I will go and look at it again to see what I exactly did. As I recall it wasn't difficult. What year RHD are you making?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Matt Foye on Friday, November 01, 2013 - 09:17 pm:

It will be an all brass 10/11 huckster. I cut the trees down and milled them for the body from the oak in the front yard. Body is done for the most part. Running gear tested strong. I have hogs head, brake lever, quadrant, and steering column to frame bracket but still need the steering components on the front end. I'm assuming I can use a regular 'pitman' from a stock model t? I need both rods, one from the pitman ball to the tie rod, and the tie rod itself, unless that can simply be reversed. i doubt it though... Also need to find or fab the spark and throttle rods, but am much more comfortable doing that than risking a failure in the front end.. Thanks for your help, i'm very close and having fun in making a unique model t. Also, don't mind paying the postage in Australia if things can't be located in the States. thanks again.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Allan Richard Bennett on Friday, November 01, 2013 - 09:25 pm:

Matt, the tie rod between the spindle arms should be relatively simple to alter to RHD on an early tie rod with the ball cast into the fixed end. If you grind off the old ball and drill from the other side, one of the replacement balls from the vendors will do the trick. The adjustable yoke on the other end will have to be run with the pinch bolt on the opposite side of the rod.

You are correct about the pitman arm. I suspect that the drag link is also usable a is.

Hope this helps,

Allan from down under.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Matt Foye on Monday, November 04, 2013 - 12:37 pm:

Andrew, if you come up with any of the parts I need, please let me know. I think you're right about avoiding bending anything. thanks.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Andrew Brand on Monday, November 04, 2013 - 04:28 pm:

Hi Matt. I guess it depends on whether you want period correct parts or later ones. That determines what needs to be done to convert as the design is different.

1911-12 tie rods can be converted - if you flip one end for end so the fixed ball still faces the rear of the car, on the fixed end the threaded hole would need to be enlarged as its now on the top. Opposite for the non threaded hole - would need to be filled/plugged and threaded. Non fixed end is ok as is - just rotated 180 degrees on the thread.

1911-12 steering rods are threaded both ends so no rework is necessary.

Later rods are a different story. I think both the later tie rod and steering rods are harder to convert than the 1911-12 ones.

Confused? Maybe I'll need to post some photos to explain that better...

Anyway let me know what your intentions are and I may be able to help.

Andrew


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Matt Foye on Monday, November 04, 2013 - 05:39 pm:

Not going to be period correct by any means. This is a car I'm building just for the joy of it and to hopefully have a long time. The running gear for the most part is mid 20's. It will look like 10 or 11 depending on the parts I can finish gathering, but a not-so-close inspection will reveal a mish-mash of parts. I just want to get the RHD rods collected to be able to finish up this winter, which sadly seems like its here all ready.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mike Walker, NW AR on Monday, November 04, 2013 - 09:22 pm:

Matt -- If you can find a tie rod with the straight-shaft ball ('19-'21 or thereabouts), it can be used without any modification other than turning the ball around. Just swap the tie rod end-for-end and reverse the ball, and you're good to go.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Matt Foye on Tuesday, November 05, 2013 - 05:40 pm:

Thanks. I'll look around for a 19-21 straight shaft. If anyone has one for sale that will work too!


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