Hayes wire wheels

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2013: Hayes wire wheels
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Allan Richard Bennett on Monday, November 04, 2013 - 07:10 am:



A recent thread brought up Hayes wire wheels and their rarity. They are a really nice wheel and are well worth the effort to acquire a set.

However most Hayes wire wheels come with severely flogged out keyways on the rear hubs, as shown. I have even seen one where a second keyway was cut opposite the original keyway, and it was flogged too. But they can be saved.

The hub without the brake drum has been fitted with a new centre with a good keyway which was formerly a standard T wood wheel hub. The centre of the Hayes hub has been bored out. The hole is stepped to work around the taper in the hub. Once the hub is bored, the T hub is machined down to be a press fit in the machined Hayes hub.

With the new centre fitted, it is scotch screwed on each end to make sure it has no chance to spin in the hub.

For your interest.

Allan from down under.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Royce in Dallas TX on Monday, November 04, 2013 - 07:36 am:

There are a couple front Hayes wire wheels on eBay right now $500 BIN.

The wheels on my '17 were all originally front wheels that were on two separate 2 wheel trailers. My dad bought both trailers for the wheels.

He then machined a set of regular Model T rear hubs to fit inside a pair of bored out Hayes front hubs. They were welded in place.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Allan Richard Bennett on Monday, November 04, 2013 - 07:56 am:

Royce, that's a neat way to get around not having access to Hayes brake drums into which the spokes are laced. Right now I have two excellent rear hubs with badly rusted drums, and two badly flogged hubs with excellent drums, so I am good to go with one good set of rear hubs.

I will adapt standard wood wheel felloes to make up the wheels.

Allan from down under.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Herb Iffrig on Monday, November 04, 2013 - 08:02 am:

What is Scotch screwed?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Allan Richard Bennett on Monday, November 04, 2013 - 05:48 pm:

Herb, I don't know what the trick is called in the USA but it is shown on the black hub. It involves drilling and tapping a hole centred on the join between the two components and the insertion of set screws in the holes. It tops any chance of the inner part of the hub spinning in the Hayes hub. You can make out the set screws either side of the keyway.

Hope this explains.

Allan from down under.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John W. Oder - Houston, Texas on Monday, November 04, 2013 - 08:51 pm:

I call them DUTCHMEN :-) - Machine shop person for fifty-seven years


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