One Wire 6V Alternator in Model T Generator Case

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark Strange on Tuesday, November 05, 2013 - 12:52 pm:

My 1923 Touring/pickup came to me with a 6V one-wire alternator on it. It works great, but it sticks out like a sore thumb. Wasn't somebody working on putting 6V one-wire alternator internals inside a Model T generator case? I'd sure be interested in one if it became available.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bob Jablonski on Tuesday, November 05, 2013 - 01:24 pm:

Mark:

Darryl Becker has that unit in the works, sure he will make known when it's available !


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hal Schedler, Sacramento on Tuesday, November 05, 2013 - 01:59 pm:

What sore thumb??? I had to put the alternator someplace because the oil pump is in the generator hole.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Tomaso - Milton,WA on Tuesday, November 05, 2013 - 02:21 pm:

That's funny, Hal !


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bob McDonald-Federal Way, Wa. on Tuesday, November 05, 2013 - 02:46 pm:

Hal
Is that also a power steering, Air conditioning or power brake unit?

Bob


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark Strange on Tuesday, November 05, 2013 - 03:05 pm:

Some folk's thumbs get more sore than others, here is my engine compartment:

engine

To the layman it looks all original, until they see the "Chevy" alternator ;>)

Of course, to a purist it probably has a hundred other things "wrong", like an aftermarket fan hub, no engine pans, a fuel shutoff at the carb inlet, and others I'm not aware of.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hal Schedler, Sacramento on Tuesday, November 05, 2013 - 11:43 pm:

Bob, It's an air-conditioning compressor all the way baby. Works good too. I just have to stop some of the (hot) air leaks throughout the car.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Seth from NC on Wednesday, November 06, 2013 - 08:26 am:

It really helps if you paint the alternator black and just don't open that side of the hood.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Tomaso - Milton,WA on Wednesday, November 06, 2013 - 10:09 am:

Not to be too critical here Mark, but the modern bearing aluminum fan drive pulley is just as much or more noticeable as the alternator - I think it all looks good !


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark Strange on Wednesday, November 06, 2013 - 10:29 am:

Steve, you have a point there, maybe over the winter I'll try painting it black. I hate to give it up because it works great and has sealed bearings.

The picture doesn't show it because of the flash used, but the alternator is painted black and actually blends in pretty well (as far as color goes, anyway).

Seth, I have to open that side of the hood, my oil can is over there and it's a spectator magnet! ;>)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hal Schedler, Sacramento on Wednesday, November 06, 2013 - 11:55 pm:

My alternator sent the amp needle flying all the way to, and probably past, 20 amps. Today I found and installed a 30 amp meter. Using a high amperage alternator with the standard Model T meter is asking for trouble. I'm using a Nissan alt. and I know it exceeds 20 amps. I'll be surprised if the Backer crew (or anyone) will be able to use the T generator case to make an alternator.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hal Davis-SE Georgia on Thursday, November 07, 2013 - 07:24 am:

Did you install 30 amp wiring too?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bob Jablonski on Thursday, November 07, 2013 - 07:32 pm:

Mark Strange:

Postings related to your question

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark Strange on Thursday, November 07, 2013 - 08:19 pm:

Thanks, Bob, I'm going to PM Daryl and volunteer to be a beta tester for a 6V negative ground unit if he's willing to sell me one.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By mike_black on Thursday, November 07, 2013 - 08:27 pm:

I sent Daryl a PM asking of status on the alt in the T gen housing. Awaiting a response.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Les Schubert on Friday, November 08, 2013 - 10:27 am:

The smallest alternator I found commercially available was for a John Deere garden tractor. I could see how you might (or perhaps not) fit the "guts" into a T generator housing


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Clayton Swanson on Friday, November 08, 2013 - 10:36 am:

if you google "smallest alternator" it brings up a nipon denso unit that is a favorite for drag racers and other tight applications. they come in one wire, and not,were used in geo metro's, isuzu's, and many garden tractors. i bought one new, on ebay for about 60 bucks to put on my old kubota tractor thus replacing the troublesome and expensive dynamo set it came with. however...that dynamo, is very small, and i have heard the model a guys are putting that inside the stock gen case.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Saylor, Citrus Heights, Ca on Friday, November 08, 2013 - 11:31 am:

There is also the option of using a "modern" generator. I have been using these from Randy Johnson for over 20 years with no problems. Randy advertises on this site. RJ Restorations, Lincoln, Ca. http://classicponies.com/modeltweb.htm
John


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bob Jablonski on Friday, November 08, 2013 - 11:35 am:

Clayton:

Interesting info on the Nipon-Denso.

I believe Daryl's design to fit into a T generator case is of his own design.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By charlie haeckel on Friday, November 08, 2013 - 02:20 pm:

these have been around 10-15 years for flathead v-8. too expensive for T. http://www.powermastermotorsports.com/powergen.html


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