Old Photo - Brass Era Touring Car

Topics Last Day Last Week Tree View    Getting Started Formatting Troubleshooting Program Credits    New Messages Keyword Search Contact Moderators Edit Profile Administration
Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2013: Old Photo - Brass Era Touring Car
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jay - In Northern California on Wednesday, November 06, 2013 - 11:17 am:


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Keith Townsend ; ^ ) Gresham, Orygun on Wednesday, November 06, 2013 - 11:49 am:

Nice.

You can even see the "upside down double chevron" embossed into the back door panel, like on this May 1911 with a Beaudette body:



: ^ )

Keith


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Keith Townsend ; ^ ) Gresham, Orygun on Wednesday, November 06, 2013 - 11:49 am:

Nice.

You can even see the "upside down double chevron" embossed into the back door panel, like on this May 1911 with a Beaudette body:



: ^ )

Keith


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hap Tucker in Sumter SC on Wednesday, November 06, 2013 - 09:05 pm:

Jay – great photo thank you for posting it.

Keith – thank you for pointing out that detail about eh upside down chevron on the rear door panel. I believe it is an early 1911 model year touring.

Rationale: It is not a 1910 model year as the rear door is rounded on both lower corners and the 1909-10 style bodies had a much longer curved section towards the rear where it was hinged and a much more straight corner at the front lower corner.

But it still has the one piece spindles and the tie rod above the front radius rods. Ref: http://www.mtfca.com/encyclo/F-H.htm#fr1 which states, “On January 31 [1911] (#36,972) the new axle with the two-piece spindles appeared. The tie rod now was below the wishbone.” There would have been a time of overlap when both the old style and new style front axles were used. On page 492, of Bruce McCalley’s book “Model T Ford” the shipping documents were still annotating the “1911 front axle” as late as Feb 15, 1911, which implies to me both style were probably still in use at that time. It also has the 1911 style top bows. Note the radiator would be the same as the later 1910 production and was produced by Ford.

Of note, Bruce on page 80 states, “The brass “Ford” on the radiator core was discontinued.” The MTFCI Judging Guidelines Sixth Edition 1911 section page 2 line number 170 state, “Stamped Ford script no longer used on core.” But in the photo it clearly has the large “Ford” attached to the radiator core. Yes, a dealer or owner could have installed it. But are there other early photos – especially of new cars being shipped etc. that show the Ford script attached to the radiator core? Another item for additional research.

Again thank you for posting the photo.

Respectfully submitted,

Hap l9l5 cut off


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Royce in Dallas TX on Wednesday, November 06, 2013 - 09:15 pm:

I have to agree with everything Hap is saying. Clearly the car in the picture above is a 1911. The radiator is a typical 1911 - 12 version. Odd to see one with a Ford script.

Here's a picture of an original 1910 door for comparison:




Posting is currently disabled in this topic. Contact your discussion moderator for more information.
Topics Last Day Last Week Tree View    Getting Started Formatting Troubleshooting Program Credits    New Messages Keyword Search Contact Moderators Edit Profile Administration