Pulling an Engine on a 1927

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2013: Pulling an Engine on a 1927
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Aldrich Orting Wa on Wednesday, November 06, 2013 - 08:11 pm:

Never pulled an engine before so I did some research on the FORUM.

I am thinking that on my 1927 I need to disconnect the low pedal and pull it aft.

The steering column is another question but it looks like it needs to come out. True?

Any other pitfalls that are waiting for me?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Kevin Whelihan on Wednesday, November 06, 2013 - 08:27 pm:

Definitely pull the steering column along with the starter, and all the other stuff in front of the motor. I just disconnected the mounting bolts, manifolds, drive shaft to the fourth main, slid the motor forward slightly and tilted it up until the pedals cleared the firewall. Not complex. It can be done without a cherry picker, but they make the job lots easier with a spark plug ring in the third plug hole.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By mike_black on Wednesday, November 06, 2013 - 08:31 pm:

John,
I've been working on T's for 35 years, and I still won't approach anything significant without my FORD Service Manual. Gets more important as I get older and have CRS.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dan Treace, North FL on Wednesday, November 06, 2013 - 08:42 pm:

Best to just remove all the things that get in the way. As this '26 needed a total rebuild, going whole hog was the way. Off came two pedals and all the little stuff off the engine too.








Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Erik Barrett on Wednesday, November 06, 2013 - 11:06 pm:

You can pull the engine out of a 1927 without removing the low pedal and steering column, but it requires some moves that are a bit tricky with a cherry picker. Brake and reverse pedals must be removed. You have to "corkscrew" the engine out of the car to get the low pedal under the firewall then around the steering column. It can be done.
Erik


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Aldrich Orting Wa on Thursday, November 07, 2013 - 12:52 am:

Thanks.

Differing opinions but that is how I learn!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark Gregush Portland Oregon on Thursday, November 07, 2013 - 11:11 am:

Yes it can be done without removing the steering column, but if you don't, you will wished you did.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ken Todd on Thursday, November 07, 2013 - 11:14 am:

When you remove the starter be sure to remove the Bendix cover and the Bendix FIRST.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Norman T. Kling on Thursday, November 07, 2013 - 11:30 am:

You don't have to completely remove the steering column. Just unbolt it and the bracket to frame. take the tie rod end off the pitman arm and remove the spark and throttle rods. Then pull the steering column back as far as you can toward the seat.

The hood sills should be removed so that when you slide the engine forward the ears will go right out on the fenders. If they get scratched don't worry, they will be under the hood sills. With the steering column out, you can leave all the pedals in the car until the engine is completely out.

Raise the front of the engine just enough to clear the front engine mount and slide forward. You might need to push down of the wishbone to clear the flywheel housing on the crankcase. When you get the ears past the firewall tilt the front of the engine up and to the left side of the car. That will be your right as you face the engine. When the pedals clear the firewall slide forward and pull the engine up. Then roll the car backward out from under the engine, or if you are using a moveable "cherry picker" you can slide the engine away from the car.

Norm


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Harold Schwendeman - Sumner,WA on Thursday, November 07, 2013 - 01:48 pm:

John - For what it's worth, the way Norm Kling described is exactly the way I pulled the engine from the depot hack, except that I didn't find it necessary to remove the hood sills. Most importantly, as Norm said, I also found that it was not necessary to remove any of the pedals; it just takes a bit of slow and careful twists and turns with the engine hanging from the cherry picker. And if I can do it,......well,......you know,.....


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Aldrich Orting Wa on Friday, November 08, 2013 - 12:43 pm:

Thanks Harold and all for their inputs.

Got it out with my Kubota instead of a cherry picker. Neighbor showed up and gave me hell for not getting his cherry picker! (didn't know he had one)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Tomaso - Milton,WA on Friday, November 08, 2013 - 02:49 pm:

So, now what are you going to do with it, John ?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Harold Schwendeman - Sumner,WA on Friday, November 08, 2013 - 05:08 pm:

...........hey John,......tell Steve you're just gonna' clean it up, paint it and put it back in,.....ha,ha,........harold


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