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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2013: Door panel Help
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ake Osterdahl on Thursday, November 07, 2013 - 02:00 pm:

I have a few years ago bought new upholstery, to my Coupelet.
It is bought from Cartouche which covers 1918 Coupelet. Not much that is right with regard to the doors. Simply discard!
But my question is how is the door panel mounted? The one I got from Cartouche is on sturdy cardboard board, see my sketch to my problem.
Ake


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hap Tucker in Sumter SC on Friday, November 08, 2013 - 01:43 pm:

Ake,

Bottom line up front: I think that is the same installation for the 1918ish to 1921ish closed cars (and a few early 1922 closed cars). If you do not get a response, recommend you repost with a title “How to install door pull rail / bar on 1918 to 1921 closed car door. Also one of us could try to contact some of the closed car owners direct.

Additional details:

I tried to find out the method that the rod is attached to the door and/or upholstery panel. On the earlier Centerdoors and Coupelets it is easy to see how they are attached. Two screws on each side of the rod through the upholstery. Below is a photo from a rounded fixed top 1917 coupelet [some would say 1918 but Bruce on page 243 called it a 1917 and it was between the earlier 1917 bodies that were basically like the 1916 style and the 1918 bodies with the flat top but removable side pillar]. It was shown in the posted by Erik Johnson at: http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/80257/86854.html and is reposted below:




But then the closed cars transitioned to the rod passing through the upholstery and the bracket hidden by the panel as shown below in the photo of Centerdoor sedan from page 294 of Bruce’s book and originally in Bruce’s article published on page 23 of the Nov-Dec 1985 Vintage Ford. Used with permission.



Also below is the pull rail / bar on a 1918 flat top couplet shown on page 248 of Bruce’s Book and page 23 Jul – Aug 1979 “Vintage Ford” used by permission.



I thought Joe Fellin’s excellent Centerdoor restoration series in the “Vintage Ford” would show how that rod was attached on the later cars. But unfortunately his Centerdoor had transitioned to the levers holding the door windows up so it does not have that rod but instead has a simple door pull handle.

Someone that has installed upholstery on a closed car between 1918ish to 1921ish probably has the easy answer to anchoring the bar behind the upholstery. If no one on the forum chimes in with an answer, you or I could try to contact George Wilson who redid his 1921 Centerdoor that still had those bars. Below is a photo from: http://www.samodelt.com/george-wilson.php of his door after restoration – so I suspect he figured out how to install it:

Respectfully submitted,

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hap Tucker in Sumter SC on Friday, November 08, 2013 - 01:45 pm:

Photo - what photo? Below is George Wilson's Centerdoor photo:



Respectfully submitted,

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ake Osterdahl on Sunday, November 10, 2013 - 03:20 am:

Thank you all.
Door upholstery I bought from Cartouche is mounted on a sturdy cardboard box, and when I plan to mount it on the door becomes difficult. I can unscrew the bracket from the wire handle and thread it through the upholstery. But since I can not access to unscrew the two screws to the wood frame.
I'll send you the picture of the cover from Carouche
The bottom hones to newer model year.


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