1912 Touring seats and dash

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2013: 1912 Touring seats and dash
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By william louis rosenthal on Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - 12:50 pm:

Are the late 12 Touring front and back seat cushions dimensionally identical? I've got a full box spring that looks like it was for the back seat, and 2 half cushion springs that are assumed to have been used up front. If correct, these parts would say the front and rear cushion footprints are identical. These were received with a barn find where the upholstery had all previously been stripped away and trashed, as was much body wood, so there are no wear marks to confirm this.

Can someone here post a detailed drawing of the late 12 dash that shows the lamp mounting and windshield clamp holes? Also needing to know whether the brass surround terminates at the base of this dash, or whether the brass turns and extends inward toward the frame. If so, how long is this segment of surround please?

All help gratefully appreciated.

Regards,
Scott


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Roger Karlsson, southern Sweden on Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - 12:55 pm:

Snyder's are making repros of all the seat springs - they have different part numbers for front and rear cushion for 1912 (and all the others) http://www.snydersantiqueauto.com/697

The 1909-13 did not use a backrest spring, they were only covered padding.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Roger Karlsson, southern Sweden on Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - 12:57 pm:

Here is an older post with some 1912 dash info: http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/179374/216356.html


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By william louis rosenthal on Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - 01:49 pm:

Many thanks Roger:
Yes, Snyders makes excellent repro springs, however you have to send them your pattern. I asked them this question, and due to the multiple suppliers they were understandably uncomfortable with saying Yes or No.
Thx John Regan:
This dash drawing coming from you, I know this is a reliable scale template...much appreciated.
Regards,
Scott


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Haynes on Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - 02:18 pm:

Hello William,
I just finished the upholstery on my 1912 Touring. The original seats had wood frames with the springs attached with a strip of metal. I will send photos and dimensions to you tonight when I get back home. The spring framework that Synders offers is not original and may not be what you want.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By william louis rosenthal on Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - 03:18 pm:

Assuming the full spring I have is correct, I can duplicate this using the 2 halves I have....the parts all look fine functionally. I need to verify that the front and back cushion footprints are supposed to be identical as mine appear to be. My springs are not attached to a board, but that doesn't mean they were not originally. They appear to be robust without, so I'm inclined to doubt this. Original body for this car is a Beaudette, as per serial# under the front seat BXXXXXX.
Regards,
Scott


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By william louis rosenthal on Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - 06:03 pm:

The full cushion spring measures 17.38 x 35.38.
Regards,
Scott


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Haynes on Wednesday, November 13, 2013 - 08:45 pm:

The front cushion measures 37.5 inches by 17.5 and the back cushion measures 41.5 inches by 17.5 inches. I have attached some photos on the underside of the cushion.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By william louis rosenthal on Thursday, November 14, 2013 - 10:32 am:

Many thanks John:
I will now assume that I have the correct front spring, and that I am needing to fabricate one for the back 4 inches wider.
Regards,
Scott


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