Ford Model TT Ruckstell Worm Drive

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Colin Comollatti - Queensland, Australia on Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - 06:42 pm:

Hello Model T'ers

Before I start I have the Ruckstell Axle book, searched the web and searched MTFCA Forum.

I found this discussion on the MTFCA Forum back in 2010: http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/118802/138358.html

I have disassembled my Ruckstell and it seams that over the years parts have gone missing/changed or been left out.

My questions are...

1. Does anyone have an exploded view of a Ford Model TT 2 speed Ruckstell. I already have the images below and what is in the book. I would like to see which felts go where. I purchased the felts and they all came in one packet and I do not know which felt is which, no numbers.

2. Do you need the inner seal (I think part number 1024) installed, that stops the oil going up the axle tube from the differential centre. I don't think this question was answered in the above discussion.

3. Is the part number 1040 D.S Felt Retainer needed. I know the felt is required but does the retainer do anything else but hold the felt? In my Ruckstell the felt was sandwich between two washers.

4. If the above parts are required who sells them? I could not find anybody that lists those parts.

Thank you for your time
Colin




Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Henry Petrino in Modesto, CA on Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - 11:16 pm:

Colin,

1. Sorry, I can't help.

2. You absolutely do need that inner felt. Without it the rear end oil will wash out to the outer roller bearing and wash away the grease thus causing a failure over time.

3. Perhaps a couple of washer would work, but I'd sure feel better with the proper retainer.

4. I'm looking at a 2 year old Mac's catalog and they have some. Snyder's has some. Lang's has some. All the vendors have a lot more TT parts now than they did 8 or 10 years ago when I was doing my truck but I don't see any with the retainers your asking about. There are some guys on this forum who are very good at finding things for folks that are hard to find. List what you need and I bet you'll find one or more of them who can help you.

Good luck with your project!!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Colin Comollatti - Queensland, Australia on Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - 11:54 pm:

Thanks Henry

I just want to make sure I am looking for the right seal for question 2. The following image was copied out of the discussion back in 2010, and the seal on the right is the same type of felt seal in metal shield I am looking for.



Do I need to pull the metal shield apart and put in a new felt seal? The shield looks to have crimped edges.

Thank you for your time
Colin


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Herb Iffrig on Wednesday, November 13, 2013 - 02:38 am:

You might want to talk to Richard Eagle.
See his post of Oct 13:

http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/331880/390812.html?1383534155


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Henry Petrino in Modesto, CA on Wednesday, November 13, 2013 - 08:30 am:

Colin,

It's been a long time since I had my TT rear end apart, but if I remember correctly you don't take the felt retainer apart. Just force the old felt out as best you can then do the same getting the new one in. I seem to remember that soaking it in some oil first helps, it's pretty hard to do if it's dry.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Adam Doleshal on Wednesday, November 13, 2013 - 12:44 pm:

The felt at the drive shaft is the same as the inner axle shaft felts. Even the retainers are the same, however it is very difficult to get the retainers out, apart, back together, and reinstalled without harming them.

You do need the drive shaft seal, otherwise on long runs in high gear, the worm will push most all of the rear axle lubrication up the tube and the rear end runs dry.

Also, TT axles need to be filled with lube all the way to the bottom of the center filler plug otherwise they do not properly lubricate and will overheat the worm drive gear bearings. The info is very hard to find in original manuals, but shows up in a service bulletin. TT trucks get filled to the bottom of the plug. T cars get filled quite a bit lower.


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