The Great Pathfinder – “King of the Twelves” Today we feature a make that came and went fairly quickly but was the product of some very talented people from the pre-war era. The photo shows Miss Lillian Russell, an enormously successful actress and singer in the late 19th and early 20th century. Learn all about this fabulous V-12 powered car @ http://theoldmotor.com/?p=106867
Would this had been the first V type engine? Impressive. I'll bet that car had power to spare.
It looks very modern for 1916.
Must be a glass plate negative. Just look at the sharpness and detail in that photo.
According to Wikipedia:
The first V-type engine, a 2-cylinder vee twin, was built in 1889 by Daimler, to a design by Wilhelm Maybach. By 1903 V8 engines were being produced for motor boat racing by the Société Antoinette to designs by Léon Levavasseur, building on experience gained with in-line four-cylinder engines. In 1904, the Putney Motor Works completed a new V12 marine racing engine – the first V12 engine produced for any purpose.
The post in the Old Motor states the engine developed 87 HP from 389 cubic inches. Not a lot of HP but with its proclaimed long stroke, torque must have been good. It is a fairly large, heavy looking car, so that might not be all that much power. Nice looking body, though. I mean the car, not the driver!
A nicely set up T engine with an OHV head could probably produce more power with less than half the displacement.
Do any of the cars still exist? If so does anyone have any recent photos?
Looks like there is one here:
Here's another picture of the same car:
I have a 1916 V8 engine from a Briscoe. It is a OHV engine with pressure oiling and "fork and blade" connecting rods with shell rod bearings. Unlike the Pathfinder it has a 2 barrel updraft carb. It is nominally 40 HP from about 210 cu in.
My uncle, George Teters, had a Pathfinder in the 1950's & 1960's. This was in Glendale, AZ. His car had what we would call a speedster body, with huge exhaust pipes running down the sides of the car and what looked like a 55 gallon drum behind the seat for fuel. I only saw it once, when I was about 10 years old. One of the things I remember is that it had badges riveted on the hood from various races and tours that it had attended back in "the day".
Another thing I recall was that Uncle George said he was disappointed in the power when he first started running it. But he soon realized that it had a device to shut off one bank of cylinders for fuel economy. He had been running on only one bank. Things got a lot more interesting when he switched in the second bank.
I have no idea where the car went after Uncle George sold it, and he has been gone for many years.
I remember seeing that car when I was a teenager in Phoenix in 1951 or 1952..A friend and I drove a Model T to Nogales for a parade, I think George drove his Pathfinder on that tour...It was a great looking speedster..I think he said it was pulled out of a wash in the desert somewhere....
I had a 1916 Briscoe with the OHV V-8. That car would do over 60, killing every mosquito in 3 counties with the oil from the exhaust. I had to add a quart every 25 miles!