My new 1919 Paco Speedster!

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Robert Richmon on Sunday, November 17, 2013 - 06:52 pm:

Hello Everyone, I just purchased a 1919 Paco Model 21 speedster. I'm trying to learn everything I can before I do any work to the car. I just bought it a few weeks ago off eBay & it is running and driving. It has a real mix of drivetrain parts, so I'm not sure what direction to go? I'd love to get more history on the car as I bought in from a fellow that lives in Austin, Minnesota . He said the car had been there about 15 years and he got it from an estate sale. He did know the owners son & gave me so pictures and articles about the car possibly from 1982??? This article was in Antique Motor News & said the owner was Jack Schafer, Escondido, California. My guy also said he thought the car cam from Wisconsin ? Any help? BobMy Paco


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Derek Kiefer - Mantorville, MN on Sunday, November 17, 2013 - 08:00 pm:

I knew the owner well, but I don't know much history about the car. I only remember seeing it once when I was a teenager. He didn't take it out much. I believe it has a Chevy Powerglide in it behind the stock T transmission.

He tried to sell me that car many times, but I was young and had no money at the time...


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Robert Richmon on Sunday, November 17, 2013 - 08:06 pm:

That's great info, it actually has a 1st year Ford C4 automatic transmission from 1964. Would you mind passing that owners name along to me?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ed in California on Sunday, November 17, 2013 - 08:28 pm:

Thats a neat speedster. Love the Fronty ohv.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Derek Kiefer - Mantorville, MN on Sunday, November 17, 2013 - 08:31 pm:

He always called it a powerglide... he didn't build the car, so he might have just had the info wrong.

"Bud" Johnson was the owner. His collection was sold on VanDerBrink auction in June.

http://www.austindailyherald.com/2013/07/a-legacy-at-auction/


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Derek Kiefer - Mantorville, MN on Sunday, November 17, 2013 - 08:38 pm:

Here's his obituary:
http://www.austindailyherald.com/2011/12/gregg-w-johnson-87/


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Robert Richmon on Sunday, November 17, 2013 - 08:58 pm:

WOW, thanks Derek, that was great information! Sorry for the family's loss.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Robert Richmon on Sunday, November 17, 2013 - 09:12 pm:

The Speedster has some real crazy modifications and really runs strong compared to my 24 Touring sedan! Aside from the Frontenac Head, it has a Stomberg OC-2 carb, Ford C-4 three speed automatic trans with a Borg Warner overdrive bolted behind it. Where the generator would bolt in, it has a modified GM power steering pump for a pressurized oiling system complete with oil filter and 50 psi of pressure. Camel water pump, ford 12 volt alternator & late 50s Lucas distributor. Also has 4 wheel drum brake from a Nash metropolitan.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ricks - Surf City on Sunday, November 17, 2013 - 09:46 pm:

Go, and stop too! YOWZA!!

The ol' brass picup has part of that list:

914 Porsche disturbutor
12v alternator
Fronty R head
BW O/D
4-wheel Metro brakes.



The Speedster body is in storage. No room for two Ts, and the wife likes the picup with its top and windshield, and handy hauling. Everybody needs an old pickup.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Robert Richmon on Monday, November 18, 2013 - 06:16 am:

Hey Rick, love both bodies! How good are your Metro brakes? Someone has put the wrong size master cylinder on my car (bore to big) and I have no brakes so to speak! I also haven't figured out the OD unit, someone has taken the electric solenoid off and it is now cable operated. BTW, love the washing machine in the back!!!!!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ricks - Surf City on Monday, November 18, 2013 - 07:57 am:

It'll stop on a dime and give you nine cents change. Seat belts are mandatory. I've hauled over 600 lb of stuff many times. That's why I built the box so big.

The master cyl should be same size as wheel cyls, 3/4". I used a single from an early Beetle for years, and switched more recently to a new dual MC from a not quite so old Beetle, for separate front and rear. It was about $40 at Bubba's Bug World or somewhere. Try www.RockAuto.com . It has remote reservoir, which I mounted forward and outboard of the pedals, under the floorboards.

The O/D comes with a cable to lock out freewheeling so you can back up. They used a second cable in place of the solenoid on the left side? That thing uses very little holding current. I even use the governor solenoid on the right side, so OD engages whenever I close the throttle briefly above 28 mph. It's pretty slick, and a planetary like the original T. Mine still has the original tranny, too.

Send me a note: RickyDik verizon.net, and I'll send you scans of manuals on the OD. BTW, I'm looking for a governor driven gear for a Mopar BW O/D. Mopar, Ford, Chevy and Stude are all different, probably due to different rearend ratios.

Congratulations on a nifty car.

Keep in mind: whatever you own, also owns you.


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