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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By ben jermainne on Tuesday, November 19, 2013 - 08:04 pm:

Hi guys I just bought my grandfather's 1912 touring and have finally had time to look for a body number. I have found B47?04. The third letter could be a two but its real hard to read. Most of the letters are really faded so the some of the others could be wrong two. The car has the smooth sides with rear door handles on the inside. I have looked all over for other I'd numbers but haven't found any. Any ideas to about when my car was made would be really Appreciated .


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Royce in Dallas TX on Tuesday, November 19, 2013 - 08:30 pm:

The body number might show how your car relates to other bodies made by OJ Beaudette of Pontiac, Michigan but the easy way to tell when the car was built is to look at the engine casting dates. There are dates on the cylinder head and on the block, if the engine is an original 1912.

If you have the original engine serial number I can give you an idea of when the car might have been produced based on accounts receivables records from the Benson Ford Archives.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By ben jermainne on Tuesday, November 19, 2013 - 08:33 pm:

Thanks Royce. I forgot to mention the motor has been changed a few times


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By ben jermainne on Tuesday, November 19, 2013 - 08:55 pm:

Royce iam going to go look tomorrow and see if I can get the number off of the engine that came with car when my grandfather got it he said it wasnt the original engine but iam going to go get the number I won't know myself unless I look. Right now it has a starter motor In it.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Keith Townsend ; ^ ) Gresham, Orygun on Tuesday, November 19, 2013 - 09:03 pm:

Ben-
That number fits Beaudette numbers for 1912. Did you find the body number on the seat riser just in front of the gas tank cover?

If so, take a look under the doors. The bodies were stamped there, too. Sometimes it is easier to take digital images and play with the brightness and color tones to see what you can't see with the naked eye. You can maybe then determine your mystery number.

: ^ )

Keith


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By ben jermainne on Wednesday, November 20, 2013 - 03:55 pm:

Keith. I found the numbers under the door I have looked at the wood in front of the gas tank and I can't find anything. I found an old registration my grandfather had before he changed the motor then number is #2605623


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By ben jermainne on Wednesday, November 20, 2013 - 04:06 pm:

OK so I looked again in from of the gas tank with a bright light and I can faintly make out some of the numbers so between the car and the door I am going with B47204


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark Strange on Wednesday, November 20, 2013 - 04:25 pm:

According to the table in the back of the book "Model T Ford the Car That Changed the World", engine number 2605623 would have been assembled around March 27, 1918, so even that engine would have been a replacement if your car is a 1912.

Fiscal year 1912 (October 1911 through September 30, 1912) engines start at 69877 and run through 157424.

Calendar year 1912 engines start at 88901 and run through 183563.

The notes in the book indicate that the original records for this time period have not been found, the numbers above are based on later Ford published data.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Keith Townsend ; ^ ) Gresham, Orygun on Wednesday, November 20, 2013 - 05:48 pm:

Ben-
Sounds like some good detective work!

Now, how 'bout some pictures?

: ^ )

Keith


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