Still available, Model T ford alternator kits. contact for information, Thank you
Hi Daryl. I received my alternators and installed one of them and it is great. As I have a right hand drive T I had to file a tiny bit off one of the lugs on the side and file a bit off the side of the steering bracket. I will take a photo and send to you. Thanks for a great alternator. Regards Andrew (Australia)
Are you any closer to one that looks like a T generator?
Thank you very much Andrew, Glad all is well, Still working on the Generator look alike Mike, was away all month so back at it. Thank you
Daryl, How are things going with an alternator that will charge at lower engine speeds? That would be my only complant about the two I have from you is that unless the engine is running and a higher speed they will not charge.
I have a single wire 6V alternator on my 1923 touring/pickup conversion (it was on the car when I bought it, I don't know who it came from). I find that if I speed the engine up shortly after startup, the alternator will start charging and will continue to charge even after the engine speed has been brought back down.
Will . when did you buy these units? are they the 10 si version or the CS version? Earlier versions may have had this problem, I am assuming you bought these from my father??
Hi Daryl...I tried to call you about my bum alternator but had to leave a message and didn't get a return call. This was about a month ago.
I must have gotten it from your brother. (Norwalk, Ohio) Didn't know you guys have two different businesses.
Got it last August and it worked about a month.
Bob, Yes I am sure you did get it from my brother, I can give you the list of quality differences, Hence why I didn't stay involved with the Norwalk shop, since he was only a copier at best and never had/has a true understanding of the units, I will be calling you and you can send it to me, I will be more than Happy to repair/send a new one to you, Thank you
If you are having "turn on" issues with a 10SI there are some stator fired VR's out there. Ultra low kick in speed. The part number is D10AC.
I'm sure Daryl can fix you up as this is his bailiwick.
Bob, Unit is on its way, and yes there are many ways to help turn on speed with the old 10 si, Personally wouldn't use a 10si version anymore, many issues with them, many addressed already on this site, That is why I only use the CS Delco Version. BUT overall YES the turn on speed problem should be a thing of the past
Daryl, I bought the first one from your dad 2011 and the other 2012. Both from AACA fall Hershey. Can they be upgraded?
Will, Send me your information to email@example.com shipping address and what unit you have 6v? or 12v? I can have you ship me a unit and go from there, most likely, YES just replace with new unit
Daryl, how much for a 6v version?
Robert, $165.00 plus $12.35 shipping Thank you
The best alternator for a T is the original generator!
I'm glad not EVERY vendor of Model T parts uses the forum for free advertising. There would be no room for regular threads. I have no problem with the occasional "Ive got one of those. PM me" type of post inside a thread, but starting your own thread for pure advertising is another story. Just my opinion.
Hal as you can see, that is how this started , then became a helpful informational discussion, helping people solve past issues and answering new questions, I am sorry you feel that helping people solve there past issues and answering new questions about there model T issues is so upsetting and bothersome to you that you need to post such a response, I am sure all of us that have made progress in making our Model T more functional and enjoyable apologize for inconveniencing you to this level .
and also for someone/Larry to attempt a childish old argument between generator /alternator, this article had no such discussion involved, indicates a very childish mentality that I wouldn't think this forum actually wanted in its content.
To me, it sounded more like "I'm still selling these things" (ie Nothing new) and here's why I don't like my brother's stuff and oh, Larry's childish because he prefers a generator. IMO the first point belongs in the classified and the last two shouldn't make it past the keyboard.
I would respectfully point out that it might be to our own benefit if our parts suppliers—most of whom provide outstanding customer service; more often than not, ridiculously above and beyond industry standards—could get away with the very, very infrequent plugs we see, here on the forum, without being rebuked for it.
As a matter of fact, I would suggest we dedicate a special, unofficial thread for that specific purpose—something with a disguised title so spammers wouldn't find it and our webmaster would, accidently on purpose, not happen to notice because nobody complained about it. Call it, say, "Problems With My Power Windows," and let our pals point out this month's specials. And if you don't like the advertising thread, do what I do when I see a thread that doesn't interest me: Ignore it and move on to the next one. Just my humble opinion.
But hey, I could be wrong—happens all the time—just ask my wife.
I am sure those who benefited from this information exchange feel different, and if you don't see the attempt to turn this into a generator alternator bashing session by larry then I am not sure your seeing things correctly, so far Bob and will have there problems solved and are happy there model T's are getting back on the road, I see this as a positive note, not a negative
I have always repaired my own generators and do not have a T with an alternator, however I don't rule them out.
If I open a gen with a bad armature, I know it will cost a lot more than a new alternator to fix it. Since I don't worry about showing a car I would in that case pounce on a new alternator. The last 50 years has proven the concept quite well.
Some of you guys fly as well. Remember the 12 amp generator the was common years ago? Between a radio, transponder, position lights, landing light, aux GPS, etc the battery would be down before you were. Most of those airplanes have been retrofitted with alternators and for good cause.
BTW I look forward to your alt that you are fitting in the gen case.
Happy Thanksgiving !
...and for your uplifting post. What's wrong with suppliers posting their comments.... I see regular Forum posters promoting our vendors almost as a religion.... some of which I purchase parts and some I stay way from. We all have had our experiences with vendors and have expressed our likes and dislikes in quality of merchandise and service... this is just the other swing of the pendulum,,,, Think about that.
Hey Bob, I agree with you and enjoyed reading this post more than many of other threads. Since I don't have a gen or alt but was interesting.
I hope no one starts bashing Daryl like they did Mike Kossor...
A alternator will charge better at lower rpms with a 24 volt stator. for a 10si is a Faulkner #7176S. A 24 volt stator has more winding than a 12 volt stator but is only rated 30 amps
Not inconvenienced Daryl, just think it is a bit unfair to those who pay for advertising and have the business ethic to leave it at that. Again, just my opinion.
Welcome to the Forum.
I look forward to your shared T experiences. Aware of your Model T involvement for a few years, I'm sure you will bring positive learning to the rest of us.
Hal, If being less business ethical than those who pay for advertising is the price I pay to help a few fellow model T owners finish there vehicle and correct problems with parts so they can enjoy the hobby , Than I accept that label
By your own admission, you started this thread as an advertisement. What you call helping others with their problems appears to be just conducting business, so I'm not buying the benevolence act.
Again, I have no problem with someone making a post within a thread saying they have the part someone is looking for. These type posts are usually followed up with a "Send me a PM" and the business is conducted off-line. But just starting a thread to say "I'm still in business" is a little much. Then bashing the competition (Or airing the family laundry), is unprofessional and may cost you more business than it gets you. But do as you will.
If everyone did what you are doing, the MTFCA would never sell a single advertisement. Ask yourself, "Is it fair to the other vendors, who pay for advertising, for me to advertise on the forum for free?" Notice I said "Ask yourself". I'm not looking for an answer to that question. It's something for you to ponder. If you decide that it is fair, then you have indeed accepted, and deserve, the label you eluded to above.
I honestly don't believe anyone comes on this thread to read such drama as you see fit to continue, so out of respect of others that enjoy the technical information exchanged here I choose to discontinue this conversation and leave by saying I believe that if more vendors would actually participate in the forum LESS people would have complaints concerning products, have a better understanding of products and technical information , and the ability to converse with vendors in an open forum that many others would see and possibly prevent them from having to ask the same questions, Again, To further there completion of there Model T projects and enjoy the Hobby, That alone should be a very beneficial product of an open forum.
Don't let a little DRAMA scare you . We all are aware of the unemployed actors, I choose not to click on their "participation".
IMHO, you can converse on the phone for free info, or you can share on this Forum so many more can benefit from your questions and given answers...... think about that.
Sorry guys. I don't get the 'drama' comments, but if it makes you feel better, have at it.
My Italian ancestors had a proverb which commented on subject of strictness, usually with regard to raising children (Now, please don't get me wrong. I am NOT saying that I think anyone here is acting childishly and you guys know I'm always careful not to intentionally insult anybody). It translated as, "Every once in a while, let a fly pass by."
The proverb loses something in the translation, but the gist of the thing is that; not always, but now and then, it might be healthy for a parent to pretend to be looking the other way when one of the kids is engaged in a minor infraction like raiding the cookie jar. So, what I think I'm trying to say is; let's play by the rules, but let us not be so strict about it that the game becomes less fun.
Again, I may be wrong—happens all the time—just ask my wife.
On the continuum between purist and anything goes, I'm toward the conservative end. While I doubt that I'll ever use an alternator on a Model T because I don't like seeing a bunch of modern stuff on one, I don't object in the slightest to discussions of the various add-ons. But Hal's last point is well taken. If I were in the business of supplying a Model T product I'd certainly buy advertising to support the clubs and perhaps pick up a little business. I also agree with Daryl that the folks who provide goods and services do themselves and the rest of us a favor when they provide information and advice on the forums. I appreciate the learning I've received from Ron, Stan, John, and others who share expertise in their specialties.
Would anyone have the same negativity with this recent Forum post ????
I do not see any difference, vendors using the Forum making known their parts for sale.
Nit pickers need not answer.
Both vendors are quality businesses and truthful. Do they have ads in the Vintage Ford ? ... heck if I know... if that makes a difference. If it does, Daryl is just starting out on his own. In time he may have the funds to advertize.
Robin I think I'd be inclined to relash that stator 7176S to delta wind from Y wound. I'm lazy, I'd just go with the AC actuated VR that was mentioned, that and the stator isn't common in the after market.
Output can be increased by rectifying the common side of the "Y" just to make a note of it.
Not to take away from Mr. Becker but there is a fellow on the Oregon coast putting alternators in generator cases? I seen them trickle thru the shop.
He does not list a Model T however.
Yes we have seen these products VERY nice indeed and High Quality, sadly not for a Model T and also a VERY Hefty price tag, were trying to create a Model T version with a more acceptable price range for most, But in no way Taking away from a very fine product Gener nator makes
That's a loaded question, Bob. If one were to say it was OK, then you would be OK with it. If one were to object to that thread, you would say they are nit-picking. I suppose you think you are very clever.
To answer your question, yes, that thread is out of line too, and for the same reason, as you duly noted.
Daryl, i am somewhat confused, i recently purchased some items from Larry Becker in Norwalk ,OH, are you going to be a competitor are both of you selling the same product? one phone number forwards to NC, the other is picked up in Ohio.
Im not going to comment either way on Mr Becker posting to the forum, What I will say about Mr Becker is that he stands behind his product %100. Cant ask for any better service than that.
Rick, I am sorry for the confusion, without sounding condemning, after my Fathers death because of several differences in many arenas, I myself have continued to improve and develop my Fathers creations, So Yes we are two completely different businesses, Thank you for asking, I am in no way connected to the Norwalk Ohio business.
Met you dad at Chickasha one year. Nice guy and a gentleman.
While I'm not crazy about advertising on the forum, what you did was simply let the group know a product we thought was no longer available, is available once again.
Nothing wrong with that!
Cheers and good luck continuing your dad's business. Nice way to honor his memory.
my goodness! darel has been polite and informative. like steve said its a good thing that the people who are experts in they're field get on here to help.thats how we learn. if you dont want an alternator read the ot post about football instead of attacking. personelly football and alternators make me want to find something else to do