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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By charley shaver on Friday, November 29, 2013 - 08:11 pm:

hi. anybody know what the mounting bracket for this generator looks like. thanks charleystarter


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By charley shaver on Friday, November 29, 2013 - 08:13 pm:

pix 2stater


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hap Tucker in Sumter SC on Friday, November 29, 2013 - 08:28 pm:

Charley,

What does the writing on the tag say? I cannot zoom in enough to read it. Often times it will have the name of the company that produced the part.

Do you know for sure what it fits? I.e. did someone take it off of a Model T or off of some other make of car?

From the flat belt and the gear on the shaft, I suspect it is a starter-generator. If it is, a starter-generator then with the switch in one position it will engage the starter and turn the engine over. Once started and the starter switch released it will become a generator. Several cars had those and from memory (not as good as it once was) at least one or two accessory makers produced a starter-generator for the pre-starter 1918 and earlier Model Ts. I would also recommend you include a ruler or tell us the dimensions of the unit. A couple of the ones I am thinking of were very large -- i.e. 12 x 6 x 14 inches or so and really heavy.

From you photo I would guess the flat pulley is only about 1/2 the width of the Model T fan pulley. But is that about right or how does it compare size wise to the T pulley?

Respectfully submitted,

Hap l9l5 cut off


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By charley shaver on Friday, November 29, 2013 - 10:18 pm:

the apple electric co..apelco trade name. ford in block letters in the center. dynamo motor. model#a-28.6-12 volts. it is a starter- generator. the pulley is 7/8" hope this helps.charley


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By charley shaver on Wednesday, December 04, 2013 - 08:04 pm:

I still need help with this.charley


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Richard Eagle Ida Fls on Wednesday, December 04, 2013 - 09:04 pm:

forums.aaca.org/showthread.php?t=347530
The above talks about a starter generator being used on a 1919 Briscoe 4-24. I also see the name "Apelco" used with Splitdorf.
Don't know that helps you any.
Rich

I totally don't understand the steering column on the other thread. That arrangement on the top end is very unusual.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Richard Eagle Ida Fls on Wednesday, December 04, 2013 - 09:49 pm:

The 1919 Automotive Wiring Manual shows Splitdorf-Apelco for Briscoe, Elcar, Pullman, Mitchel-Lewis and some cars I never heard of, but not for Ford.





Maybe this will lead to a clue.
Rich


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Richard Eagle Ida Fls on Thursday, December 05, 2013 - 12:58 am:

http://forums.aaca.org/showthread.php?t=282846&p=763065&viewfull=1#post763065

This unit looks similar.

Rich


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Layden Butler on Thursday, December 05, 2013 - 06:11 pm:

Wonder if perhaps they used the same bracket to mount the Apelco generator as this Splitdorf magneto on the left?
I think they both have the same S.A.E. mounting dimensions.
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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By charley shaver on Wednesday, December 11, 2013 - 08:22 pm:

well I took it apart and it looks like it may be a compound rack & pion. but I am not a gearhead like some let me know what you think . I have more pixs. charley


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By charley shaver on Wednesday, December 11, 2013 - 08:28 pm:

crap!!!!!!!!!!!!!! wrong thread. I have copied some adds on the gen.charleygen


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By charley shaver on Wednesday, December 11, 2013 - 08:31 pm:

apelco add from motor world 1/6/1915charley


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By charley shaver on Wednesday, December 11, 2013 - 08:33 pm:

pix 2gen


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By charley shaver on Wednesday, December 11, 2013 - 08:36 pm:

splitorf-apelco the automobile 12/31/1914.charley


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By charley shaver on Wednesday, December 11, 2013 - 10:58 pm:

p.s. here are some pixs of my gray& davis gen- starter comb for a 't' charleyform pixs 3 009.JPG


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By charley shaver on Wednesday, December 11, 2013 - 11:01 pm:

pixgen


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By charley shaver on Wednesday, December 11, 2013 - 11:02 pm:

gengen


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