Mystery Cowl

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Alfred Buller on Sunday, December 01, 2013 - 04:26 pm:

Can someone please help with the identification of this mystery cowl section? Appears to be factory original. Has original Murphy Fasteners with "M" stamp mark for rain cover. Appears to be for larger than Model T type auto.
22" Length Bottom Front to Rear
32" Width @ Front Bottom
40" Width @ Rear Bottom
22 3/4 Height @ front center
8" depth at top of cowl
All Measurements are Approximate


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Danuser on Sunday, December 01, 2013 - 05:05 pm:

It would make a nice larger speedster body front


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Eddy Lee Emerson on Sunday, December 01, 2013 - 08:58 pm:

Alfred Buller bought that cowl from me. I bought it at Chickasha from a vender who said it was from an Apperson Jack Rabbit Speedster. I was never able to find a good picture of such a car and could not determine if it actually was an Apperson. Ed


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Wayne Sheldon, Grass Valley, CA on Sunday, December 01, 2013 - 09:53 pm:

That cowl could be from any of many dozens of cars from about 1907 to 1911. Similar cowls were used on a variety of body styles from sport tourings, runabouts, speedsters, and fancy names like "demi-tonneau". An Apperson Jack Rabbit is as likely as any. The only way you could be certain, would be to find a genuine car, truly original or restored from original parts, and compare the measurements and trim very closely. It is also likely that the cowl could properly fit a dozen other cars of the era. Many companies built bodies and parts for many other companies.
I googled Apperson Jack Rabbit and looked at the images. There were none with a cowl like yours, however, I clearly remember an advertisement in one of my old Floyd Clymer books for a ca 1907 Apperson with a cowl similar to yours. Finding it may be another issue.
Nice piece of a car! It would be wonderful if it could wind up on a correct era car. It wouldn't be bad if it wound up on a speedster.
Welcome to the forum!
Drive carefully, and enjoy, W2


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jim Thode Chehalis Washington on Sunday, December 01, 2013 - 11:13 pm:

This car is reported to be a 1907 Apperson Jack Rabbit Speedster but the cowl does not match.


The later Apperson Jack Rabbit's had a rounded cowl similar to the mystery cowl. There is a photo of a 1917 Apperson Jack Rabbit at:
http://justacarguy.blogspot.com/2010/08/lot-of-americans-made-automobiles-in.html

And a 1916 here:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6a/1916-apperson.jpg


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Eddy Lee Emerson on Monday, December 02, 2013 - 09:48 pm:

A little more information on the post by Jim Thode concerning "justacarguy.blogspot". The picture of Geronimo driving a Cadillac was taken on the Miller Brothers 101 Ranch in Ponca City, OK. The Miller brothers had enough political clout to get Geronimo released from prison at Ft. Sill, OK., so he could tour with the Miller Brothers 101 Ranch Wild West Show.

The 1915 Monroe roadster is a nice car, but definitely the wrong color, It should either be painted blue with white wheels or gray with blue wheels. I have one of these, partially restored, that I would like to sell. Comes with a parts car.

The 1917 Geronimo shown is actually a 1918. It was built in Enid, OK. and was restored by the Enid Region AACA. If you don't like the color, blame me. I picked it out. Ed


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