BRRRRR Its cold out there!

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2013: BRRRRR Its cold out there!
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Chris Bamford, Edmonton AB on Saturday, December 07, 2013 - 04:16 pm:

The hamlet of Leedale, Alberta, 100 miles to our southwest, had the lowest recorded temperature — worldwide — the night before last at -40°C/-40°F. Here in the city we're enjoying temperatures at least 10 degrees warmer.

I've been driving my '26 touring every day (60 miles in the past week) and am pleased to report the car is handling the cold at least as well as the driver, maybe even better.

I changed to 5-20W conventional oil a couple weeks ago and have noticed it's much easier to starting after sitting outdoors for a while. I generally cover the hood with a couple old blankets (photo) to retain engine heat and amuse onlookers. This morning after two hours outside at -30°C/-22°F it fired up almost immediately on mag using the self-commencer.

Other concessions to the cold have been re-installing the hot air pipe, cardboard on the radiator front, fan belt removal and taking out the top toeboard. I may also refit the engine pans to direct a bit more heat into the cockpit.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Charlie B actually in Toms River N.J. on Saturday, December 07, 2013 - 04:56 pm:

you're a brave soul and a true hobbiest.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hal Davis-SE Georgia on Saturday, December 07, 2013 - 05:02 pm:

Sweating my butt off getting the TT ready for tonight's Christmas parade. 72 and HUMID.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Kenneth W DeLong on Saturday, December 07, 2013 - 05:48 pm:

Good on ya!! Bud.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark Gregush Portland Oregon on Saturday, December 07, 2013 - 05:52 pm:

Just came back from a short drive. Temp. in the shade about 31F no wind lots of sun. I just put the engine pans back on before going for drive no card board but the pans help (me :-) ). If I had gas in the tank this AM would have taken her but would have added card board. It was about 25F.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Danial - Veneta OR US Earth Solar System on Saturday, December 07, 2013 - 06:10 pm:

Dang, Chris, that's true T-Dedication...brrr....

We're supposed to see a low of 8 tonight and we're not expected to climb above freezing at any hour until Tuesday.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dennis Seth - Ohio on Saturday, December 07, 2013 - 06:22 pm:

It's 22* at my place tonight and I just got back from driving Santa Claus two miles down an icy road to a childrens Christmas party with the top down! It was well worth the trouble when you heard the children laugh and cheer as Santa arrived.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Richard Wolf on Saturday, December 07, 2013 - 06:43 pm:

Too hot to do too much outside 81 degrees and humid here in Florida


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Wells on Saturday, December 07, 2013 - 07:12 pm:

Cold here in Canada but, I did a Christmas parade today as well. No pans or hot air pipe meant the engine wasn't as happy as it usually is but it ran well enough. It was well worth it.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tim Wrenn on Saturday, December 07, 2013 - 07:28 pm:

I'm sweating my butt off too here in Ohio!!! 78 degrees here....in front of the fireplace!!!

Thanks Hal & Rich for rubbing it in.

Chris, I'm glad you and your car can handle the cold! I sure can't. Be glad it isn't a hand-cranker.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Fred Miller, Sequim WA on Saturday, December 07, 2013 - 08:31 pm:

It's 15 degrees here at 5:00 pm. Sunny today at 22 degrees. Kind of unusual but happens about every 10 years or so.
Merry Christmas Everyone.

cold


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Wayne Sheldon, Grass Valley, CA on Saturday, December 07, 2013 - 09:16 pm:

This is what we woke up to in sunny Califunny this morning!



Drive carefully, and enjoy, W2


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Enos Wiseman on Saturday, December 07, 2013 - 09:28 pm:

Hey Chris.
I had my 26 in a parade last week here but it's not that cold. I had the curtains on just in case.
Took the bike for a spin yesterday and today. +11 here in Nova Scotia yesterday. "50* Fahrenheit"26 Touring


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jay - In Northern California on Saturday, December 07, 2013 - 09:35 pm:


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Lance Sorenson, Hector, Minnesota on Saturday, December 07, 2013 - 09:42 pm:

I had the TT in a parade Thursday night. It was cold and windy, but it was fun.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jay - In Northern California on Saturday, December 07, 2013 - 09:53 pm:

Lance, Nice job on the decorations!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bill Everett on Saturday, December 07, 2013 - 10:57 pm:

Reno will be keno! Bailey and I'll be there this week for a trade show; I understand it's quite balmy at about 15 above.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Aaron Griffey, Hayward Ca. on Saturday, December 07, 2013 - 11:42 pm:

Cold here in the S.F. Bay Area too.
Today when we went out at 11:00 AM it was 51F.!!
Actually it was 29 here one morning yesterday or the day before. Coldest I've ever seen here.
I sure will be glad when Global Warming is finished, I don't like the cold.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave DeYoung on Sunday, December 08, 2013 - 12:50 am:

Just got home from a game night a my brother's house 13 miles away. Getting a bit chilly here in southern WI. The temp right now is 6 above and the sedan started right up and ran great. I applaud you guys running around in open cars without curtains. That's just plain cold.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Danial - Veneta OR US Earth Solar System on Sunday, December 08, 2013 - 01:43 am:

An hour ago it was 7 degrees here. And falling.

Hey Dave D. At the risk of being OT here, what do you guys play on game night? FPS? RPG?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Fred Dimock, Newfields NH, USA on Sunday, December 08, 2013 - 02:23 am:

Currently 66 F here
but my T is 7,285,94 miles away
According to the weather app it is -4 F there


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Wes Nelson ........Bucyrus, MO on Sunday, December 08, 2013 - 07:00 am:

I awoke Friday morning to this... the neighbors accused me of bringing this with me from Chicago... I am a transplant here.





Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Cameron Whitaker on Sunday, December 08, 2013 - 08:05 am:

It's hovering right around freezing here in College Station, Texas. My T doesn't have a top or anything, so driving it in the cold is an interesting experience!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dick Lodge - St Louis MO on Sunday, December 08, 2013 - 09:33 am:

Compared to what many of you are reporting, it's not that cold in St Louis, but it was 69 F last Wednesday and 28 F Thursday morning. A little too abrupt for my taste....


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark Strange on Sunday, December 08, 2013 - 09:53 am:

Dick, did you get snow in St. Louis? We have about 3 inches here in Hillsboro.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hal Davis-SE Georgia on Sunday, December 08, 2013 - 10:19 am:

I spent 3-4 months in Ft. Leonard Wood. Talk about abrupt. We went from rolled up sleeves to field jackets in a matter of a couple of hours. This would have been October or so of '82. You guys in MO have some abrupt changes in weather.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Erich Bruckner, Vancouver, WA on Sunday, December 08, 2013 - 10:42 am:

I had to put a small bulb in an outdoor type socket and hang it under the hummingbird feeder to keep it from freezing solid. Boy is that feeder popular.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Richard Wolf on Sunday, December 08, 2013 - 10:49 am:

Wish I knew how to put pictures on here. Beautiful sunny day here in Florida. Suppose to get up to 83 degrees today.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dick Lodge - St Louis MO on Sunday, December 08, 2013 - 11:23 am:

Mark, we did in Kirkwood - about 2 inches, I think. Some Friday and a little more last night.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark Gregush Portland Oregon on Sunday, December 08, 2013 - 11:51 am:

At below 20 and a light on to keep humming bird feeder from freezing still had to de-ice the tubes this AM.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Richard Eagle Ida Fls on Sunday, December 08, 2013 - 12:43 pm:



-3 and coupe started OK.
Rich


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Danial - Veneta OR US Earth Solar System on Sunday, December 08, 2013 - 12:52 pm:

Hey Hal, I was at FLW in 81-82 and then again in 83-85. I know that which you speak of.
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It was minus 7 here when I woke up this morning. (Veneta, Oregon, USA)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf, Parkerfield KS on Sunday, December 08, 2013 - 01:01 pm:

Out in the middle of the continent, far from the moderating influence of the oceans, abrupt changes are fairly common. A change of 30º from one day to the next is unusual, but not rare. Currently warmed up to 21º F outside and 32º in the house. I'll work in the heated shop until evening, then come in and light a fire in the kitchen stove. That will make dinner time toasty. Only 103 days til spring.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Gary H. White - Sheridan, MI on Sunday, December 08, 2013 - 02:01 pm:

Bah. Humbug.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By David J. Holland on Sunday, December 08, 2013 - 02:42 pm:

Better bring in your brass monkey tonight!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Charlie B actually in Toms River N.J. on Sunday, December 08, 2013 - 02:53 pm:

Jeez Steve I'd be worring about the pipes freezing at 32 deg. inside ! Taken at my front door at about 2:00 PM. Been snowing about 1/2 an hour. Threw the weather morons. They don't know how much will fall.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jim on Sunday, December 08, 2013 - 03:20 pm:

Wisconsin - Minnesota - North Dakota
South Dakota - Wyoming - Utah

That was my week I just wrapped up .....

I have been dealing with below zero weather on the road for about a week, ever since I dropped off outside Fargo, ND.

I spent Monday and Tuesday in Laramie, WY.

Drove on a sheet of ice to Rawlins, then west
along the I-80 sheet to Salt Lake City, UT to
drop off and pick up ....

Got outta there Friday late afternoon and
did some night driving along I-80 east to
Rock Springs, WY ....

It amazes me how many new bumper pull and fifth wheel/gooseneck rv trailers I saw totaled on I-80.

I counted (3) just being hauled by Horizon
wiped out just in Wyoming - one accident happened just about right in front of me.

I am glad to be done with a week of white knuckle
driving on interstate sheet ice ..... :-)



Jim


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Lance Sorenson, Hector, Minnesota on Sunday, December 08, 2013 - 03:25 pm:

This thread is getting me excited. It's warmed up to 8 degrees and snowing, so I think I will take the T out for a spin. I might have to put the chains on if this continues!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Keith Townsend ; ^ ) Gresham, Orygun on Sunday, December 08, 2013 - 03:25 pm:

Last night my 15 year-old son and his 17 year-old date went to the winter formal called the "snowball"

I was their chauffeur for the evening. It was 16° when I got home.



*< : ^ )
Keith


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Erich Bruckner, Vancouver, WA on Sunday, December 08, 2013 - 03:49 pm:

Keith, That is literally cool. Hope they defrosted enough to have a great time.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave DeYoung on Sunday, December 08, 2013 - 06:16 pm:

Hey Danial: Last night it was 6 of us playing Sunday Bridge. Between our two families, we have a large assortment of card and board games along with many sets of dominos. We've had many a long night playing chicken foot or mexican train with 4 to 6 players. Another popular game is Phase 10.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave DeYoung on Sunday, December 08, 2013 - 06:18 pm:

How do you guys that drive during the winter deal with the salt on the roads?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jim on Sunday, December 08, 2013 - 07:25 pm:

Dave,

They make sure their T does not get ....

Peppered

With road salt



Jim :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jim on Sunday, December 08, 2013 - 07:35 pm:

Back in the day ....

You would drain your radiator when you stopped for the day

Build a fire - carefully - under your engine in the morning to heat the oil

Then heat the water and put it back in the radiator

And away you go ... :-)


Jim


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mike Stitt-Southern Oregon on Sunday, December 08, 2013 - 07:52 pm:

2° in Southern Oregon. 6" of snow and the Christmas parade in Jacksonville has been cancelled.
I hear Alaska is warmer.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bob Gruber- Spanaway, Wash. on Sunday, December 08, 2013 - 08:31 pm:

My wife and I took off for breakfast at about 6 this morning in our '24 tudor.
It was 15 degrees and she fired right up.
It's nice driving early on the weekend....very little traffic.
It has been dry for a week or so...no salt or whatever other chemicals they dump on the roads.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dan Haynes on Sunday, December 08, 2013 - 08:44 pm:

Keith, is that the same kid who was wearing the hat with the '11 body in the back of your truck?

And I have to say, I threw my head back and guffawed loudly when I saw your addition to your usual signature above. Excellent touch. Thanks for the belly laugh.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Danial - Veneta OR US Earth Solar System on Sunday, December 08, 2013 - 08:55 pm:

Hey Dave, I never got around to learning bridge but I did sure enjoy a few rounds of double nine dominoes with my daughter from time to time. And chess too. She's a mean chess player.

Was minus 10 last night here. Talking about minus 4 tonight in Eugene which will make it a couple degrees cooler out here where I live. Ugh.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Richard Eagle Ida Fls on Sunday, December 08, 2013 - 10:20 pm:

Salt etc. I blame it for early failure of one shackle as mentioned on another thread. We have driven our Tudor for 10 winters now, maybe twice a week. I wash the under-carriage in the spring. The Dulux I put on 12 years ago has held up pretty well. Anywhere the paint has chipped rusts quickly. There are really few days when they have to up stuff on the roads.
I don't worry about the rusty T. It won't get much worse.
Rich


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Keith Townsend ; ^ ) Gresham, Orygun on Sunday, December 08, 2013 - 10:33 pm:

Dan-
Yes, it is the same kid. Back in the summer of '10 while bringing the '11 body home, he was 12 and wearing a fedora. For the Snowball he was wearing his derby. I'm glad you like my season touch to my signature.

Dave-
Oregon doesn't do salt on roads!

*< : ^ )

Keith


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bob McDonald-Federal Way, Wa. on Sunday, December 08, 2013 - 10:39 pm:

I heard today that Barrow Ak. was 10 deg. warmer than Seattle. HUMMMMMMM.

Bob


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mike Robison on Sunday, December 08, 2013 - 10:53 pm:

It is 8 Degrees in Spokane. My Shop isn't insulated, so I don't spend a bunch of time out there in the winter. My Wife snapped this picture of Me and my 4 month old daughter searching the forum this evening.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Fred Schrope - Upland, IN on Monday, December 09, 2013 - 12:07 pm:

By David J. Holland on Sunday, December 08, 2013 - 02:42 pm:

Better bring in your brass monkey tonight!
----------------------------------------

Now you're bringing back old memories - as an old geezer.

For those old enough, remember WLS Chicago and Dick Biondi? Remember he got fired for telling an "obscene" joke?

I remember it as the winter of 1961-62, but I guess it was the next winter. Anyway, it was going to be a very cold night and he told everyone they should bring their brass monkey's in off the porch.


Also, the joke isn't actually "obscene". A brass monkey was the frame, often made of brass, that held the cannon balls next to a cannon. The cannon balls were iron of some sort. With the difference in expansion (or contraction) rates between brass and iron when cooled, when it got really cold, the balls would fall off the monkey. Hence the term "cold enough to freeze the balls off a brass monkey" or was it "monkee"?........has nothing to do with an animal.

If you're interested, here's an update on Dick:
http://windycitylive.com/episodes/Radio-Legend---Dick-Biondi/8792143


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave DeYoung on Monday, December 09, 2013 - 01:41 pm:

Thanks for that Fred. You can live your whole life hearing these common sayings and never really understand where they come form. The saying contributed to the Model T could probably fill a nice little book all by themselves.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Richard Eagle Ida Fls on Tuesday, December 10, 2013 - 01:20 pm:



Did someone mention salt?



Mike R. Fun to see your daughter enjoying the Forum.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Roger Karlsson, southern Sweden on Tuesday, December 10, 2013 - 01:46 pm:

Ouch Richard, salt is a killer for your beauty :-(
Treat it with some linseed oil on the outside and chainsaw oil on the underside, might delay the destruction some..


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Wayne Sheldon, Grass Valley, CA on Wednesday, December 11, 2013 - 12:14 am:

I love etymology! Thank you Fred S for something I learned today.
And Richard E, Careful with that beautiful car! We like it rusty just like it is.
Drive carefully, and enjoy, W2


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dennis Seth - Ohio on Wednesday, December 11, 2013 - 07:36 am:

It's 3* this morning with the windchill. I may just have to put the top up today.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tim Wrenn on Wednesday, December 11, 2013 - 09:00 am:

So, Hell HATH frozen over!!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jem Bowkett on Thursday, December 12, 2013 - 11:53 am:

I hate to rain on your parade Fred, but the brass monkey cannonball story is not right.

First thing is the difference between the co-efficient of expansions of brass & iron is not enough to cause such a problem. Also the only association between cannons and monkeys I know is the 'powder monkey', being a young boy who scuttled between the magazine and the gun deck of a ship keeping the powder supplied. The thing for holding cannonballs on a ship is the 'shot garland'.

Being a fan of slang and etymology I did some googling and found the early versions referred to freezing the tail off or the ears off a brass monkey, so the balls version IS a testicular reference.

Here's a link to a full dissertation, arriving at no definite conclusion ;^)

http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/cold%20enough%20to%20freeze%20the%20balls%20o ff%20a%20brass%20monkey.html


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dick Lodge - St Louis MO on Thursday, December 12, 2013 - 12:39 pm:

Jem, there are a number of those supposed etymological explanations floating around the internet. Another is that "rule of thumb" is from an ancient law stating that a man could beat his wife with a stick if the stick was no thicker than his thumb. Wrong! It actually refers to using the distance between the tip of the thumb and the first knuckle to estimate an inch. Interestingly, the Dutch word "duim" means both "thumb" and "inch," and the same is true of "pouce" in French.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Fred Schrope - Upland, IN on Thursday, December 12, 2013 - 06:00 pm:

Jem - I kinda wondered about that and you're very likely right. It does make a good story though. As for your link, are you sure it's accurate. It must be, it was on the internet. But then again, as Abe Lincoln said "Don't believe everything you see on the Internet".

Actually, I was more interested in the Dick Biondi part as we used to listen to him when I was at Purdue. He was a real rebel then.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark Gregush Portland Oregon on Thursday, December 12, 2013 - 08:41 pm:

35 and rain heading to the 40s Portland Or! :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mike Walker, NW AR on Thursday, December 12, 2013 - 11:06 pm:

I remember WLS and Dick B. well. We got it clearly in the evenings way down in Oklahoma. I thought that what Dick B. got fired for was the statement, "If skirts get any shorter, the girls will have two more cheeks to powder and another hairdo to comb." :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf, Parkerfield KS on Friday, December 13, 2013 - 12:06 am:

Seeing WLS mentioned, I turned on the Philco to see what I could pick up. I got WLS, WBAP, WGN, and "the blowtorch" KOA. That last one booms in probably because the transmitter is over a mile high. Sometimes I can get the Opry on WSM. Occasionally KSL gets here, and very rarely KFI. Unfortunately, a lot of the AM programming now is brain-dead talk shows.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Paul Mikeska, Denver CO on Friday, December 13, 2013 - 12:48 am:

I live in the KOA area and can pick it up in my truck traveling east till about 1/2 way through Kansas. In prior life's I lived in both KGO and WPAP areas. Sometimes I can pick WOAI or WBAP here in Denver if the skip is just right but have never been able to find KGO unless going west somewhere past Salt Lake City.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ricks - Surf City on Friday, December 13, 2013 - 08:39 pm:


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