EBad research for early TT

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2013: EBad research for early TT
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Wayne Sheldon, Grass Valley, CA on Sunday, December 08, 2013 - 09:01 pm:

Someone with better computer skills than I, may want to copy and file a few photos from an eBad listing erroneously listed as a 1914 T pickup.
It turns out that it is a TT. I did send a note to the seller, but have not so far heard back (I was nice!).
I had noticed earlier that it appeared to be early TT-wise, so today, I went and looked again out of curiosity. I knew it was a non-electric engine. And I had noticed the early beaded rear end housings. Today, I noticed it has an "over-the-axle" front wishbone with a vintage brace under it. Missed that the other day.
If that front end is original to the truck, it would make it probably the earliest TT I have ever seen in person. I cannot read either the serial number or casting date on the engine photo, but can tell at a glance that it is NOT a brass era block. I would guess the truck is a true '18, could be early '19. It has an early style fan and small pulleys in a "wide nose" pan which would be correct for '17 into '19.
It does have demountable rear wheels which I would imagine are not original to it. Any more speculation I would prefer to leave to the TT experts.
It also comes with an extra (later) engine on an iron-wheeled cart.

Henry P and others should look this over;

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ford-Model-T-base-1914-ford-model-t-pickup-hot-rod-rat-r od-with-title-/271340922339?forcerrptr=true&hash=item3f2d2de5e3&item=27134092233 9&pt=US_Cars_Trucks

Actually, if this were about 1500 miles closer to me, I could be very interested in it depending upon what the reserve price is.
Drive carefully, and enjoy, W2


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Henry Petrino in Modesto, CA on Sunday, December 08, 2013 - 10:41 pm:

It surely is an early TT. Other indicators are the early (short) rear cross member and the fact that the rear end does not have the upper filler plug. However, the fire wall is wrong and the horn button is of a later design. The 2843799 "VIN" listed indicates a January 1919 engine. The spare parts are sort of a conglomeration, but I guess that's to be expected.

I'd say best guess is an early 1919 truck. I wish it was closer to me. I too would be interested if it were closer.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Saylor on Sunday, December 08, 2013 - 11:08 pm:

I've copied all the photos onto an online album, which you can check out here:
http://imgur.com/a/q2tRY
If you want to save any of them yourself, just right click on the photo you want and select "save as."

I'm a little baffled by the steam-governor contraption mounted to the second engine. Anyone know what that's for?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Warren W. Mortensen on Monday, December 09, 2013 - 03:12 am:

Most likely used as a power source so it has a flyball governor attached to regulate RPMs.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By charley shaver on Monday, December 09, 2013 - 03:03 pm:

I think the bracket under the gov is the one i need for my apple gen. I hope who ever buys it if it meets the reserve, will give a chance at it.charley


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