Am I missing something? is there a gold bar under the seat?
That piece of junk has been on eBad for a long time. The seller (I won't mention by name) loves to prove how little they know about collector cars in most of their listings I have ever read (I only read listings for pre'30 cars). I would not trust anything on their say-so alone.
They and about a half dozen other "dealers" give all dealers in collector cars a bad name. Many of them do deserve a bad name. But some are just stupid about the things they say and the prices they ask.
And I never use the word "stupid" unless I mean it.
Actually, It could be a very fun car. AS LONG AS the buyer/owner knows what it is and what it is not. It IS NOT a 1912.
Drive (and shop) carefully, and enjoy, W2
There's no gold bar they're just trying to make some money on a project that was VERY expensive. I really like the black and purple and how finished the car is - I just can't imagine anyone paying more than $25K for a speedster that doesn't have a Rajo or Fronty (or other OHV setup) no matter how nice the build.
The problem is who built it? It looks really nice but I'd be extremely skeptical of the mechanical side of the car. If I won it in a lottery (the only way they'll ever get any money for it) I'd have to bring it home and tear apart the rear and engine/trans just to feel comfortable about driving it. Also, not sure why but the fact that it has 12V everywhere with gas headlamps but no actual bulbs for the headlamps really annoys me. If you look at the pics on eBay it very clearly just has empty headlamps with no burners or bulbs. What else did they not think of?
I'm taking orders now for the same thing but you just get to pay 20,000.Any takers......Jerry. Now that i'm retired I need something to do. Offer expires in 12 hours....
If I had $20K and you could/would build me that exact same speedster, I'd say SOLD! The only thing it really needs in my opinion is some accessory brakes and a Ruckstell with 3:1 gears.
How exactly would you drive this car on anything but a 'smooth as glass' surface. Any slight bump in the road and those tires are hitting the bottom of the fenders front and back. I guess they're trying to lure in the tuner crowd.
It just doesn't "wow" me at all......its just a fairly stock motor/drivetrain and a Rootlieb kit, nothing really special in my book....and certainly NOT deserving of such a high asking price. I would argue $7,000 to $9,000 being much more correct.
Anybody can buy a brass radiator and a set of gas lamps and throw them on any T chassis....but a brass radiator does not a 1912 make...
...Sorry, ment to type $12,000 to $17,000.
...and spell "meant" correctly
I think Clayton is right. It looks like a very nice, assembled-from-parts & catalog-sheet metal car. I'm not wild about the lowering kit and with only 20 miles on the imaginary odometer, it may be that the builder wasn't pleased with the way the car turned out. Of course, I'm speculating, but heck, that's what we do here.
$12,000? Eh, maybe. But $17,000? No way—heck, my I paid less than that for a dead-stock, '15 Touring with a freshly overhauled drive-train.
I guess I would re,re-edit my original estimate to between $8,000 to $10,000 at most....even with all the "new" sheet metal and rebuilt components.
As Seth pointed out, for any well versed T owner....you could never be SURE of what was done INSIDE that motor and if it was done RIGHT. it would all have to be checked.....unless you knew who did the work.
...I do like the Moore-style drop axle though
Check, schmeck. Like I did with my Mercury, drive it like you stole it and fix what breaks. I'm getting a new motor.
That's a 1912 in the same way that a merino ram is a species of migratory waterfowl. $49,900!? Snort!
You guys are going to have a field day with this one:
WOW, we love our speedster, but for $50,000 I'd sell it and even throw in my 26 coupe.
Hemming's prices are enough to make the Pope say Mass in Hebrew anyway. It'd be too bad if your starting out looking for a T and it was your first experience with searching. The "Concour's Prices" boys seem to flock there. I'm not a speedster guy but it is a handsome car in my opinion. They all need a hands on look & drive but I agree it's overpriced by 2/3rds. As Rick on Pawn Stars says: That's what their asking. What are they getting?