'17 Coupelet for Sale

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2013: '17 Coupelet for Sale
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mike Walker, NW AR on Tuesday, December 10, 2013 - 11:32 pm:

Here is a very rare '17 removable-pillar Coupelet for sale on T-Bay.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ford-Model-T-Coupelet-1917-ford-model-t-coupelet-/161172 224781?forcerrptr=true&hash=item25869cfb0d&item=161172224781&pt=US_Cars_Trucks

Bryan Ostergren has one, and he says he knows of only 5 now existing. This seller (I don't know who it is) says the same thing.

Here's an opportunity to have one of the rarest Model T's. :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rick Goelz-Knoxville,TN on Wednesday, December 11, 2013 - 12:07 am:

This is a beautiful car, i have seen it on numerous occasions and have toured with them .

rick


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Don Watson -Florence,Colorado on Wednesday, December 11, 2013 - 12:23 am:

Does any one have the name of the Owner in Conn who is currently restoring one?
The Canadian 17 is Owned by Don Reid

-Don


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Richard Wolf on Wednesday, December 11, 2013 - 07:28 am:

Lots of luck on that.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Royce in Dallas TX on Wednesday, December 11, 2013 - 07:44 am:

Great car. I think the price is a bit optimistic, but where else could you get one this nice today?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Richard Eagle Ida Fls on Wednesday, December 11, 2013 - 08:56 am:

Thanks for posting this. The pictures are amazing and good for reference.
Rich


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dan Killecut on Wednesday, December 11, 2013 - 08:59 am:

I know of another one in Pennsylvania. It's completely restored.
I get a kick out of the fact that some think GM came out with the first two door hardtop. Not so! As far as I know this Ford was the first one.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mike Walker, NW AR on Wednesday, December 11, 2013 - 10:19 am:

I have a question about this car's gas tank. It's different from what we usually see in T's, but it looks like it belongs there. Any thoughts on that? Replacement or original?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Simmering on Wednesday, December 11, 2013 - 10:34 am:

The car has a regular round T gas tank. What you see in the picture is a domed cover that may be unique to these cars. The gauge is an accessory.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Larry Smith on Wednesday, December 11, 2013 - 10:41 am:

That car belongs to Dave & Karen Simmering. I've seen the car, it's as good as it looks.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mike Walker, NW AR on Wednesday, December 11, 2013 - 11:00 am:

Dave -- Thanks for clearing that up. I've never seen anything like that.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Erik Johnson on Wednesday, December 11, 2013 - 01:26 pm:

Domed tank cover is correct for the car.

I took these photos of a mainly unrestored '17 coupelet (unfortunately it has a much later '26 or '27 motor installed).

The tank cover is domed but hard to tell in the photo due to all the dirt.

Also - note the serial number on the sill.

1

2


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Simmering on Wednesday, December 11, 2013 - 01:45 pm:

Erick, As you know ,that car is in Warps Pioneer Village in Nebraska. Bryan Ostergren sent me some pictures. He told me that they thought it was a 26 until he told them what they had. The number on Bryan's is 27722. If you have Bruce's ,
encyclopedia, Bryan has the car previously owned by Don Black.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Erik Johnson on Wednesday, December 11, 2013 - 02:20 pm:

Dave:

My father and I first saw the car in the mid 1970s and again sometime in 1988. Sometime later my father corresponded directly with Harold Warp when he was still alive and informed Mr. Warp that it was a 1917. The museum labeled it as a 1922 in their display as well as in the book "A History of Man's Progress" which a book that written by Harold Warp that lists an inventory of all items in the museum. To date, the museum probably still has not changed the sign on the car or their records to reflect that it is a 1917.

My father also asked what the history of the car was in his letter (where, when and from whom it was obtained, etc.) but unfortunately no details could be provided by Mr. Warp.

About 13 years ago I contacted the museum ahead of time and got permission to go behind the ropes and take photos of the car. I have photos of the engine and wrote down the serial number and it is my 1917 coupelet file.

Unfortunately, the car is filthy due to all the prairie dust.

I'm familiar with the eBay coupelet via the article that Don Black wrote in Vintage Ford that was also reprinted in Bruce McCalley's big black book.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Philip Berg on Wednesday, December 11, 2013 - 02:52 pm:

Was the gas tank cover standard equipment for the coupelets?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Don Watson -Florence,Colorado on Wednesday, December 11, 2013 - 03:19 pm:

Its so nice for some of us to see a Post on a Model T that is truly RARE This may not be a Model K but it is a lot Rarer. (I think)
I am getting some one to post a couple of photos for us one which shows the 17 Couplet at Harold Warps Pioneer Village back in 1983 (Pre Prairie Dust) you can just see the start of the Padded Curved Top.Since there is only ONE known Canadian 17
I am including a photo of it and a sketch I did showing the difference in the Door Panels

As a side note Don Black's 17 it was sold to Robert Reeves in Redmond,WA and after Roberts death was purchased by Ben Ostergren in Northridge,CA

-Don


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mike Walker, NW AR on Wednesday, December 11, 2013 - 06:13 pm:

Dave and Erik -- Thanks for that info on the gas tank covers. Have either of you seen that piece on any year Coupelet other than 1917?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dan Killecut on Wednesday, December 11, 2013 - 07:01 pm:

Don: did you receive the PM I sent you?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Royce in Dallas TX on Wednesday, December 11, 2013 - 07:09 pm:

Couplet pictures from Don Watson:

Couplet at Pioneer Village, NE 1983


17 Couplet Canadian:


Couplet door stitching comparison:


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Huson, Berthoud, Co. on Wednesday, December 11, 2013 - 07:12 pm:

I am not sure what year but I believe that Roland Jones in Hudson, Colorado has one and There is another in Colorado Springs.

picture


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Erik Johnson on Wednesday, December 11, 2013 - 07:32 pm:

Mike Walker:

I've never lifted the seat cushion on a '15 or '16 coupelet so I can't answer the question about the lid.

Mark Cameron could answer that question, at least as it pertains to his own '16.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jay - In Northern California on Wednesday, December 11, 2013 - 07:45 pm:


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Erik Johnson on Wednesday, December 11, 2013 - 08:09 pm:

Uh Oh....

Ontario plate on Dapper Dan's car yet it has the so called U.S. door panel trim.

In addition to the obvious (wire wheels), note:

Running board mat (cocoa?)
Electric sidelights


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Don Watson -Florence,Colorado on Wednesday, December 11, 2013 - 08:25 pm:

Dan,
Please resend your Email
We have been having some Computer Problems or call at (719)784-1915

Royce
Thank you for posting these

-Don


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mike Walker, NW AR on Thursday, December 12, 2013 - 08:45 am:

Both the driver and the car are really "duded up." And it's a new car -- '17 model with a '17 plate. The running board box is the size and shape for a battery. I'd bet that the car has an accessory electric starter/generator, as well as the electric cowl lights. Also note that the cowl lamp brackets are turned inward, as they are in several old Coupelet pics we've seen here recently. Super pic, Jay!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Wightman on Thursday, December 12, 2013 - 10:04 am:

I like the knobbies on the rear end and the smoothies on the front end. You could probably scare your lady friend with some high speed cornering! Rollie


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By James A. Golden on Thursday, December 12, 2013 - 12:32 pm:

This is a post card photo of a 1915 Coupelet that belonged to Richard Williams in Michigan about 25 years ago.

1915


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Darel J. Leipold on Thursday, December 12, 2013 - 01:45 pm:

Here are two photos of a 17. One is of a wreck. The other is of the Bardwell T taken when it was new. Present location not known.

1917

1917


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ake Osterdahl on Thursday, December 12, 2013 - 03:21 pm:

Very fine and rare car Dave!
Thanks for last contact Dave, and Merry Christmas to all at The Forum.

I LOOKING FOR upper right window hinges, I have left.
Looking for the right one, or just small tray with text.
Would be very grateful if someone could help with that!
see the picture here, that I have

ake.osterdahl@telia.com


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Simmering on Saturday, December 14, 2013 - 05:36 pm:

Hi Ake, I have a pair of those hinges that you can have. I'll send you an email. Dave


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mike Walker, NW AR on Saturday, December 14, 2013 - 09:55 pm:

Good on you, Dave. I didn't think Ake would find those in a million years. :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mike Walker, NW AR on Saturday, December 14, 2013 - 10:01 pm:

BTW (for those keeping score), Dave's Coupelet and the one in Nebraska have the domed gas tank cover, and Bryan Ostergren emailed me that his has it too. So at least 3 of the 5 or 6 known '17 Coupelets have that part. I've never seen it on a '15 or '16, and for the '18 model year the tank moved to the turtle. So apparently that piece is a one-year-only part.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ake Osterdahl on Sunday, December 15, 2013 - 02:00 am:

They moved the gas tank to the turtle deck, in order to lower the ceiling and get a lower look.
Now / September 10 1917 moved the gas tank to the turtle deck) could sit lower in the car, it is the reason that ford moved the gas tank I think.
Coupelet now got lower and fancy look.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mike Husted on Sunday, December 15, 2013 - 05:57 am:

I'm also looking for a pair of the upper windshield hinges. If there is another pair out
there I would be interested. Mike Husted
208 520 4892 Thanks.


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