I used to search ebay daily to source Model T parts but now it seems increasingly difficult as a basic Model T key word search brings up endless man cave tat listings. I cant even find Model T cars for sale - Is anyone else having this problem or am I alone in the antipodes. Back to swap meets I guess.
It's all about the phrasing. If you search "ford model t" go over to the left and select only "cars & trucks" out of the eBay motors section and presto! You will see about 45 Model Ts for sale. Granted, half or so are T buckets but it's not hard to scroll through. You just have to search specific things: "Ford Model T carb/wheel/head/etc"
Also try mis-spelling the words intentionally. I found 24 listings just now for "modle t".
And while you are at it, search for T parts with descriptions you might use to list an item if you had no idea what it was and no idea it was for a Model T... Got a few of my best deals that way!
I go to the E-bay automotive site and in the search box type in "Model T Ford Parts-(Fits Model T Ford) and it eliminates a lot of crap. I learned that trick from someone here on this forum but I can't remember who.
If you use the advanced search feature, you can type in "fits" as an excluded word, this blocks all the "fits model t" ads, but it also blocks anyone's ad where they say that their part will fit a 1910 to 1927 T as well, but it gets rid of all the crap. another word to use in the excluded section would be "rat"
I haven't had so much of a problem on ebay, but I sure do on Craigslist, when I search for "Model T Ford" I get every late model Ford pickup for sale in the country. Even when I try to be more specific, like "192* Model T Ford" I still get a lot of junk listings.
Just remember to choose -words carefully. anytime you put the minus symbol in front of a word it will not put it in your search results. Do not put a space between the - symbol and the word. You can also do it in advanced search option by using "words to exclude" feature. I have about 20 words in my current search that I use at this time. It really helps. I have several custom made searches in my "searches I follow" tab in my ebay Its about the only way to get rid of the junk. Just remember to choose your word wiselly
well slap me with a moldy turnip and color me flabbergasted!!. am at last having some success thanks to your suggestions. It seems vendors of the tat put in 'fits every car ever made in the universe' to pollute the key word search. If only the internet was as simple to work on as a model T Ford. Now where did I put my visa card?
Ken -- If you put quotation marks around the "Model T" (like that) it will pull up only listings which have Model T in them, not ones which have the word Model in one place and T somewhere else. It helps a little.
also, on the same subject..I use the craigslist search site called "searchtempest.com" to search for anything listed for Model T parts You'll get a listing of everything in a given local area without searching a craigslist city one by one. You can also throw in a wildcard like "192*" and get listing for any car made in the 20s, for example.
good luck searching!
Mike's suggestion of quotation marks "Model T" worked well eliminating most of the man cave tat. I also found searching by year narrows things down too. Great help from everyone - thank you.
I use Model T Ford-fits. I still get the stuff like the sign posted above, but it eliminates so much crap, searching is tolerable.
I do; (ford) model t -fits and only search in ebay motors, not saying Ford Model T was not a great recording artist but it's not what I am looking for. I put ford in () because there are a number of sellers that don't put ford in the title.
another vendor trick i have just noticed is listing all years e.g. 1926 1927 etc as alternate part numbers. there seems to be a load of mufflers (silencers?) cropping up this way when I search under year.Its a shame ebay don't have more control over the commercial vendors listing details but I guess thats where ebay make their money and not from the chap who wants to sell the occasional model T headlight.
Are you guys using search modifiers? If you want to block out all the rad rod crap then add -rat to whatever you're searching. Have more junk ... then add another -whatever
Also, using quotes cuts down on a lot of junk results. Fer instance, searching for pink elephant on eBay, or Google or any search engine will bring back every instance of the word pink and every instance of the word elephant. If you are searching for anything related to the PHRASE "pink elephant" then enclose those words in quotes as I just did. Same thing with Model T parts. Put Model T in quotes and then add the word ford after that to help narrow down the results even more. Now add -rat to get rid of rat road junk, add -toy or -bucket
"model t" ford -rat -fiberglass -toy
Searching for "model t" yields about 14,000 results.
Searching for "model t" ford -rat -fiberglass -toy yields about 8,000 results, so you really cut down on the junk results.
There's always the chance of blocking out something you might want to see though. A lot of crap listings use bucket t to describe their hotrods. Adding -bucket will block those out, but at some point you may end up missing a listing where someone is selling just that - a Model T bucket ... so you have to choose your blocking words wisely.
ps: you can also block out phrases by using the quotes method above:
"model t" ford -rat -rod -"hot rod"
Most of the none store parts sellers only sell on the auction side not as a buy it now item only like the big sellers.
There are people that list with a only a buy it now price only and it gets missed because if you are like me, don't look at those ads. If it has an opening bid price along with the buy it now and shows up on the auction side then I will see it.
So set your search to "auction" only and you should weed out most of the stores that sell volume.
I see several of the suggestions minus the word rat. I use the word rat in a lot of my listings. The rat rod people are looking for a lot of the neat accy T items, like lights, special accy "STOP" tail lights, and other T (and A) items in general. A lot of my sales are to them I have also found and bought some real nice model T items using the words rat rod. My personal opinion is I would not delete the words rat rod. You can get rid of the tin signs by deleting the word sign instead. To each his own but my views from a sellers (and buyer) point of view
I currently have a Ranger pickup on ebay that I purposely added model t to as a search criteria, I do this because the vehicles I'm trying to liquid date are duplicates of what I already have on hand. I know in this economy money is tight, but I feel trading is a better way to go. I feel that what uncle sam doesn't know, uncle sam doesn't get. Like most typical collectors I cringe at crushing old cars and parts, I believe there is some piece somewhere that will make someone's day.
on the left side, select "used" in condition. that eliminates most of the crap, but some sellers do cheat
Nice but wrong engine, head lights, head light switch, horn, coil box lid and a few other things so I would say the buy it now price is a little steep.
The buy it now price isn't a little steep. It's a lot steep. Wrong shackles, horn button, steering column, pedals, etc. Tacky plastic wiring and zip ties. There's a lot right about it, but not enough to make it worth that kind of dough.
Engine looks like a correct one except has a starter added. Most people would like that, but if you don't just put a 1915 hogshead on there.
A real nice car. Great pictures too. Price - I think you would have a hard time finding a nicer one at that price, but if you can, buy that one!
If you look on the passenger side of the engine, it has the timing gear cover (3017-B) used for a short time around 1919 for the none starter cars.
If I were listing a car on ebay and put a "Buy it Now" price on it, I would put that price above what I thought the car was worth and hope to get lucky. The car has 10 bids so far with 7 days left, and it's at $7K, which is not out of line at all. I expect it will go quite a bit higher than that.
People use e-bay because it’s a tool used to squeeze close to the maximum out of a buyer’s wallet. Nothing unusual there.
If you were to look in the classified ads in any of the “slick” antique car magazines, you might see that the asking price for this car is about average — meaning very close to "Top-Dollar"—the upper, sane limit of what the car might be worth. You'll find that sort of asking price here, too:
Still, I’m thinking it's unusual for a seller to actually receive the asking price (except at live auctions, where the rapid-fire BS of a tobacco auctioneer whips the attendees into a competitive frenzy that boosts it beyond market price).
On the other hand, IF you were to look at the classified ads in a LOCAL-CHAPTER car-club’s newsletter — the kind that’s printed on 8.5x11” paper, on a home-based, laser-jet printer — you’d find what the guys in my line of work call “to-the-trade-pricing.” That’s the kind of dough that guys in the know, who have been around a while, pay. So we, who specialize in a particular make & model, who check the forum once, twice, or more often each day, are going to have the inside track on the best deals. We’ve come to expect that.
So I sort of agree with Royce; though the “buy it now” (asking price) may be at the upper limit of what the car is worth, I think it’s still within the sane range.