What's the best way to restore this wheel?

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf, Parkerfield KS on Sunday, December 15, 2013 - 10:58 am:


The spokes are very loose. I've read on the forum about people using shims and chemical treatments to restore their wheels, so I'm wondering what's the best approach here. JB weld, or some kind of resin.?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jay - In Northern California on Sunday, December 15, 2013 - 11:10 am:

Steve, Looks like you could get a handful of vintage BTU's outta those spokes if nothing else.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark Strange on Sunday, December 15, 2013 - 11:27 am:

Since the spokes are all different lengths already, you could turn it into one of those offset clown car wheels ;>)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mike Spaziano, Bellflower, CA. on Sunday, December 15, 2013 - 11:36 am:

Looks o.k. to me. I say run it!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jay - In Northern California on Sunday, December 15, 2013 - 11:41 am:

Op-ti-mist
1. One who usually expects a favorable outcome.
2. A believer in philosophical optimism.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Henry Petrino in Modesto, CA on Sunday, December 15, 2013 - 11:47 am:

I don't think chemical products will do it. You need to shim those spokes! :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Richard Wolf on Sunday, December 15, 2013 - 12:08 pm:

I have a couple just like that.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Semprez-Templeton, CA on Sunday, December 15, 2013 - 12:12 pm:

#1 Plant hickory tree
#2 Plan color /finish of wheel (water tree)
#3 Build wood lathe (fertilize tree)
#4 Polish rust from old wheel with tooth brush (water tree again)
#5 Start a career (prune tree)
#6 Start a family (water tree)
#7 Marry off children (water tree)
#8 Retire from career (water tree)
#9 Cut down tree (Stack wood)
#10 Volunteer at library (Keep drying wood)
#11 Cut wood into spoke blanks (look for rot, if found, refer to #1)
#12 Turn spokes on home made lathe (if error is made in length, dia or shape, refer to #1)
#13 Sand and polish spokes (argue with wife over finish /color, see #2)
#14 Locate wheel parts (or buy new from swap meet)
#15 Press new spokes together into hub/feloe (Try to remember why you needed wheel in the first place)
#16 Sell wheel at swap meet. (feel great sense of accomplishment)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dick Lodge - St Louis MO on Sunday, December 15, 2013 - 12:18 pm:

It's only original once, Steve. Leave it alone....


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Paul Mikeska, Denver CO on Sunday, December 15, 2013 - 12:23 pm:

Good to know! I have several sets of wheels just like that one.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Richard Eagle Ida Fls on Sunday, December 15, 2013 - 12:31 pm:

Use the long shims. If you need to borrow my spoke hammer to reassemble it let me know. They are kind of spendy but work very well.
Thanks for the laughs.
Rich


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark Chaffin on Sunday, December 15, 2013 - 12:38 pm:

A linseed oil and you will be back in the road in no time:D


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Robert G. Hester Jr., Riverview, FL on Sunday, December 15, 2013 - 12:45 pm:

I think it's time to plow up and replant.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve McClelland on Sunday, December 15, 2013 - 12:52 pm:

A box of tooth picks and bottle of wood glue 1 sheet of 80 grit sand paper, and a couple hours on a quite Sunday afternoon. You would be amazed at what you could do with that thing........


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bill Wilkins, Oregon on Sunday, December 15, 2013 - 01:11 pm:

Put it in the creek let it soak . It may even grow new spokes.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Erich Bruckner, Vancouver, WA on Sunday, December 15, 2013 - 01:46 pm:

To bad it is missing the hub cap.

Steve M., will Steve J. need the round or flat tooth picks? If the tooth picks have a good finish already, he probably won't need the 80 grit sand paper.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Stephen D Heatherly on Sunday, December 15, 2013 - 02:39 pm:

Steve, I'm sure you probably own a wood stove. :-)

Stephen


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Larry Smith on Sunday, December 15, 2013 - 02:54 pm:

Steve, I didn't know you were into '26s, or is it a '27?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By mike_black on Sunday, December 15, 2013 - 02:58 pm:

That is one of a set of special "sedan transport wheels" made for folks with enclosed trailers with doors a little too short. Finish breaking off the 4 long parts, put on the car, and, while still jacked up, stick the beginning of a large new roll of duct tape to the drum and put in low gear while a friend holds the roll of tape on a stick. When the entire roll is transferred to the drum, do the other side. This may allow you to drive into the trailer without dragging the center of the rear end!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dennis Henrichs on Sunday, December 15, 2013 - 05:10 pm:

In a pinch--just bolt an inflatable spare on the outside of the hub. It'll get you home to get a better wheel. Also bolt the wheel on the car rear spare carrier. If you get "nudged' by some fool with his hat backwards, you have a cushion.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By David Menzies on Sunday, December 15, 2013 - 07:03 pm:

I think it would be a good airator for your lawn in the spring.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Erich Bruckner, Vancouver, WA on Sunday, December 15, 2013 - 07:38 pm:

Wow, a prehistoric T? Just look at those stalactites.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve McClelland on Sunday, December 15, 2013 - 07:52 pm:

Erich
Good point, no use in sanding at all, he may as well spend the extra 16 cents, and get the round smooth tooth picks.... What was I thinking...? You just shaved a 1/2 hour off the job! Good thinking.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Erich Bruckner, Vancouver, WA on Sunday, December 15, 2013 - 07:57 pm:

Heck, the advice here is truely priceless......


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Charlie B actually in Toms River N.J. on Sunday, December 15, 2013 - 08:02 pm:

Bottle of Jim Beam and a straw. You won't care one way or the other.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bob McDonald-Federal Way, Wa. on Sunday, December 15, 2013 - 08:15 pm:

Steve
Build a speedster and use them to lower it, should
be fine.

Bob


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Donnie Brown on Sunday, December 15, 2013 - 08:20 pm:

Steve I think this is the missing part for the recent find by Chris B in another current thread titled "preserve or restore". Maybe you two can get together and save another one of the truly original model Ts left.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark Stewart -Calif. on Sunday, December 15, 2013 - 08:30 pm:

Steve, Sharpen the end of each remaining spoke, Stick cut Tomatoes, Onions, Bell peppers and Meat on them.
Place entire unit on a BBQ and...
WALLAH
Model T Shisk Kabob!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Paul Mikeska, Denver CO on Sunday, December 15, 2013 - 08:33 pm:

The only thing I can see that Steve's wheel needs is the Rare Lug Nut Covers listed in a prior post!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Andre Valkenaers on Monday, December 16, 2013 - 06:50 am:

Steve,
I have some spare spokes here in the barn. Just come and get them. With some elbow grease and a few chemicals they will just be fine to rebuild your wheel. I was intended to use them on Christmas eve as fire wood .
We can maybe tread You the wood and I will take the hub and the brake drum????
To come here You will need to swim a while.



Andre
Belgium

There should be some smiles in it but I don't know how to put them.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By George Clipner-Los Angeles on Tuesday, December 17, 2013 - 01:31 am:

Judicious use of JB Weld and some wood putty.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tex Holtby on Tuesday, December 17, 2013 - 07:49 am:

Hey Steve - two wraps of duct tape prior to sandblasting and that would not have happened!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Cameron Whitaker on Tuesday, December 17, 2013 - 08:08 am:

Buy a new wheel! :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bill in Adelaida Calif on Tuesday, December 17, 2013 - 09:38 am:

TO re-store the wheel just remove it from the location that it is currently stored and move it to a new location. It is now re-stored. Of course it does help to remember where you re-stored it :-)

Bill


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark Gregush Portland Oregon on Tuesday, December 17, 2013 - 12:27 pm:

The remains of the spokes could be turned into pens so they could write them self's into history, which is about what they are now, history or yard art.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bill Alexander in Albion, Maine on Tuesday, December 17, 2013 - 01:02 pm:

Steve: I think you need to re-invent the wheel.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Nathan Bright on Tuesday, December 17, 2013 - 05:06 pm:

give it to someone with a big mouth for use as a toothpick?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Scott Kramer on Tuesday, December 17, 2013 - 05:51 pm:

Mark,
My son Christopher asked if he could have some of the old spokes like Steve has.He made me a pen from one them,for Christmas last year.You would be surprised how good the wood is after you turn it down on the wood lathe.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Erich Bruckner, Vancouver, WA on Tuesday, December 17, 2013 - 08:11 pm:

I looks like an exact model of the T that is currently sitting in the cargo hold of the worlds biggest euphemism, the Titanic.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By michael grady on Tuesday, December 17, 2013 - 08:15 pm:

should work on a flat


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Evan Mason on Tuesday, December 17, 2013 - 10:01 pm:

Looks like a great start to a wall clock for your shop.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steven Stuckey on Tuesday, December 17, 2013 - 10:22 pm:

Don't destroy the patina. It will be worth a lot less.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Michael Mullis on Wednesday, December 18, 2013 - 07:31 pm:

Steve
It's only original once.
I use it as-is, maybe drive a tad slower.


I'd love to find some wheels in that condition for some yard art I'm working on


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ted Mahoney on Thursday, December 19, 2013 - 01:42 pm:

Steve,
I know you want to keep it and use it but consider this: put it on eBay. Opening bid: $342.00. Maybe the guy who posted his "rare battery" (aka ignition coil) on eBay a while ago for $200 might stumble across your "wheel" and bite!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark Strange on Thursday, December 19, 2013 - 01:50 pm:

Either that, or he'll get into a bidding war with the guy selling the rare lug nut covers!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bill dugger on Thursday, December 19, 2013 - 02:58 pm:

Steve: Well I had some of the spokes that I had taken out of a wheel and I gave them to a friend for him to make some fancy pens and pen light (turned on a lathe).
I have in a bag here in front of me that says as follows

"This is to certify that this pen and pen light is made from a spoke of a 1917Model T wheel owned by Bill Dugger"
signed Pens by Herb.
P.S.
He is a truck driver for Knight Transportation and doe not have a lot of spare time but when he is home the lathe and crazy glue is flowing. He lost his wife early this year so he has to do some to keep his mind busy and he and I have been friends for about 45 years, and were old CB radio buffs long ago.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tom Carnegie on Thursday, December 19, 2013 - 03:17 pm:

Two words: Kwik-poly. :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Norman T. Kling on Thursday, December 19, 2013 - 04:19 pm:

If the hub and drum are still good, and you have a felloe, you can re-spoke it.

It would be unsafe to drive on it as is.:-(

Otherwise, use as yard art. :-)
Norm


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Warren W. Mortensen on Thursday, December 19, 2013 - 09:32 pm:

Had a rear end with a couple of those on it out in the cow pasture. Used to pull it around when I was little. Worked just fine. When my brothers got older we'd take turns riding on the bottom spring while the other two guys pulled it around. The spring was busted through the center bolt hole so you had to line it up right so you didn't pinch anything delicate. Rode a little rough but we had fun. ;-)


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