Windshield hinges

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2013: Windshield hinges
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By michael grady on Wednesday, December 18, 2013 - 07:49 pm:

Hi Guys..

Newbie here..

16 touring, but likely a little later body and windshield.

I'm having trouble remembering the arrangement of the windshield hinges. (three years later)

Does the part with the ratchet point to the front (inside of car) or to the outside?

Does the glass overlap - overlap to the front (makes more sense )or to the rear of the car?

Does the windshield wiper hole belong on the passenger side or drivers side?

I have included a few photos for your enjoyment!

I hate getting old :-)hingehinge 1bhinge c


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Erik Johnson on Wednesday, December 18, 2013 - 08:03 pm:

The hinge points to the rear of the car.

The top pane sits forward and overlaps the lower pane when the windshield is in the upright position.

When the windshield is folded down, it folds toward the driver.

A windshield wiper was not factory equipment in 1916. The hole can be anywhere you want it to be.

1917 touring with nephew ready to take a spin:
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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By michael grady on Wednesday, December 18, 2013 - 08:09 pm:

Thanks Erick! Cute young man!

Waiting for Santa?

Michael


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Erik Johnson on Wednesday, December 18, 2013 - 08:10 pm:

ALSO -

On the hinge pivot, the castle nut goes on the outside. In your photos, your screw and nut are installed backwards.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Erik Johnson on Wednesday, December 18, 2013 - 08:13 pm:

He's waiting for his two front teeth to come in - it's been a long time since they fell out.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Richard Baughman on Thursday, December 19, 2013 - 01:37 am:

I would really like to see more pictures of your 1917 touring, Erik. I am restoring a 17 touring myself and pictures would help with several questions I have.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hap Tucker in Sumter SC on Thursday, December 19, 2013 - 06:37 am:

For Erik,

Great to see you are recruiting the next generation -- way to go! Also great looking car.

For Richard,

In addition to looking at Eric's great looking car as well as other cars, I would recommend you look at pages 261 to 274 of Bruce McCalley's book "Model T Ford." There is an excellent photo documentation that was taken of a 1917 Model T that at the time had only 26 original miles showing on the accessory speedometer. And of course the rest of the book is very helpful for understanding the Model Ts and how they changed over the years. Available from the club [http://modeltstore.myshopify.com/collections/frontpage/products/model-t-ford-the-car-that-changed-the-world or the vendors and also available on CD which I like even better as it has the updates Bruce did over the years plus several additional books and features that are not in the paper copy see: http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/331880/333725.html?1357665853 ] Also recommend you go ahead and post your questions on a new thread -- you might enjoy the various suggestions you receive.

For Michael,

In addition to Erik's comments -- note that the longer leg on the hinge goes on the lower portion of the windshield and the shorter leg goes on the upper portion of the windshield. It is hard for me to tell but in your photos you posted I think you have it upside down. The photo on your profile shows it the way it should be installed.



Also for the 1915-early 1917 cars with the equal length hinges, which you do not have, the hinge parts can easily be assembled wrong. Similar to how you can install the ring gear in the rear axle on either side of the pinion. It actually fits fine. But when installed on the correct side you have two speeds forward and when installed on the incorrect side you have two speeds in reverse. See: http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/29/31911.html for how the equal length windshield hinges can be assembled incorrectly. Note, I don't have the time/brain power to figure out if the later unequal windshield hinge parts can or cannot be easily assembled incorrectly. Does anyone know the answer to that one? So if you took your windshield hinges apart (which it looks like someone did from the nice paint and the bolt installed incorrectly) were you careful to keep the parts separate or did you mix them together? Again on your profile photo it looks like they were probably correct when that photo was taken.

Note while the owner installed the windshield wiper hole and wiper -- it would normally have been installed so the wiper was in front of the driver. And that would be my recommendation as you put it back together.

Good luck with your car -- it is looking good!

Respectfully submitted,

Hap l9l5 cut off


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By michael grady on Friday, December 20, 2013 - 10:12 pm:

Thanks everyone, I have them correct now and have reversed the bolt and nut as suggested. Much better!

Merry Christmas!

Michael


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