Rebuilding no demounable wheels

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Andre Valkenaers on Saturday, December 21, 2013 - 05:10 am:

A few weeks ago I tried to send a non demountable wheel to the US to be rebuild. It was to complicated and to expensive to do. Since than I am trying to make the wooden felloe myself. Next video was a great help.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mgM9wBKyU8
After a few tries I was able to make two half decent felloes in pine. For the real thing I intend to use white Oak, Hickory is hard to find here. The spokes I will order at Lang or Snyder.
I wonder if the spokes can also be used for the front non demountable wheels?

Andre
Belgium


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hal Davis-SE Georgia on Saturday, December 21, 2013 - 06:20 am:

I don't think Langs or Snyders sell spokes for wooden fellow wheels. I think they only sell them for the demountable. Stutzman may sell them.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Andre Valkenaers on Saturday, December 21, 2013 - 06:33 am:

Hal,

I know this will not be the correct spokes but for the rear wheels they can be adapted. What about the front? Is the inner diameter of the rim the same as for the rear?

Andre
Belgium


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hal Davis-SE Georgia on Saturday, December 21, 2013 - 07:15 am:

Ah, I understand what you are doing now. You can build your felloe to work with the demountable spokes. Good idea.

The spokes may be too short for the front. On demountables, the fronts and rears are the same. NonDemountable fronts are 1" larger in diameter.
Maybe you could make your felloes 1/2" thicker in front? So long as it doesn't affect safety.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Andre Valkenaers on Saturday, December 21, 2013 - 08:45 am:

I was thinking to use Kelsey-Hayes spokes. They are longer but I don't know how much.
In the other way 1/2" will be one layer of wood more on the outside of the other felloes. I just need to try it out.

Andre
Belgium


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Royce in Dallas TX on Saturday, December 21, 2013 - 09:14 am:

Oak is too brittle for making wheels. All the spokes might shatter at the same time when you hit a big bump.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Huson, Berthoud, Co. on Saturday, December 21, 2013 - 12:47 pm:

Andre Valkenaers:

There is a business just south of here in Brighton, Colorado that does wooden felloe wheels. You may have to order a full set (one Wheel) because his spokes have the double bevel on the inner ends and most of the original wheels do not have the double bevel. The double bevel is far superior to the single bevel so if you are going for all spokes in your wheels I would definitely go for the double bevel. I doubt that Stutzman makes the double bevel but maybe

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Andre Valkenaers on Saturday, December 21, 2013 - 01:10 pm:

Dave,
Can you post your pictures again? I can't open them.

Andre
Belgium


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Royce in Dallas TX on Saturday, December 21, 2013 - 01:41 pm:

Stutzmann will make anything you want if you can provide a drawing or a sample to copy. They make every type and size of wood wheel from artillery cannons to pedal cars to horse drawn buggies.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Huson, Berthoud, Co. on Saturday, December 21, 2013 - 01:46 pm:

Andre:

I have used up all my double beveled spokes. I will try and post a picture of a single beveled spokes. I find that maybe 95 percent of the wheels I work on are single bevel.
Maybe someone that works on a lot wheels can send you a picture of the double bevel type

spokes


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mike Walker, NW AR on Saturday, December 21, 2013 - 04:09 pm:

I thought the front wheels were supposed to be double-bevel but the rear ones were not.


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