My first barn find! - RHD '27 T motor

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2013: My first barn find! - RHD '27 T motor
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Justin Simon Elliott on Saturday, December 28, 2013 - 09:32 am:

Hi all.

Thought I'd share my find. Its a Feb 15 1927 motor, a Made in Canada "C729245"

I made an offer, it got accepted, and I was told to come back on Wednesday to collect... No ways... had to take it home then and there... Got some help from fellows in the neighboring area... and 4 of us picked this motor up and over a few tightly parked tractors... but got her into the sunlight eventually.

No one knows how the motor got there, but its has been there for plenty of years... Have a look at the timing cover "gasket" its an old calendar from 1931... And it looks like a mining recruitment company calendar... I recognise some of the places named, but most are the traditional native names of the day. Very cool

Anyway, the motor came apart quite easily, with no broken bolts. I found spiders nests and some old mouse nests, but otherwise all in good nick.

The pistons are good, like they haven't worked too much... but on the block, #1 and #4 have a seize mark... Maybe an old mark?

The white metal is not good at all.. but the crank journals do not look bad. And there was oil in there... Its had a rebuild before, as there were markings on the big ends marking pistons 1-4.

Its just great find this motor, and scheme about what to make of her to get her back on the road...


Cheers
Justin
South Africa


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hap Tucker in Sumter SC on Saturday, December 28, 2013 - 10:20 am:

Justin,

Congratulations on your barn find! Looks like you have a good spare for rebuilding for a late 1927 or trading material for something you may need. I like the 1931 gasket!

By the way the Tuckett Brothers in England sort of got started small and gradually became the major supplier of Model T parts in the UK as they kept adding to their collection and helping others with the parts they needed. If you have lots of low cost or better yet “free” storage – (at one time I could leave things for free at my Dad’s 30’ x 60’ garage. I kept more things back then than now when I have to rent a storage shed). Note from the Canadian serial numbers listed below – we see that C729245 would have been assembled and stamped the last day or so of Feb 1927.





Listing above is courtesy of Steven Miller who received it from the Ford Motor Company of Canada Historical Consultant Sandra Notarianni in a letter dated Aug 28, 2001.

Respectfully submitted,

Hap l9l5 cut off


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Willie K Cordes on Saturday, December 28, 2013 - 10:45 am:

Justin, I like the 13 RHD shown in your profile.
I looked at the engine pictures you posted and ask myself, what made him say it was RHD. I looked again and the foot pedals on the Right almost bite me. Here in Texas it would be a rare find. I have a RHD project, but it is moving very slow. (1915???)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Justin Simon Elliott on Saturday, December 28, 2013 - 12:48 pm:

Send pics Willie!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Clayton Swanson on Saturday, December 28, 2013 - 09:46 pm:

i suppose one does not stumble on to model t parts very often in south africa! have fun...speedster?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Justin Simon Elliott on Sunday, December 29, 2013 - 12:15 am:

Hi Hap! Thanks for the info. I got my Ford service manuals and cd encyclopedia. .. finally!

When I found the motor it was covered in dried mud and oil. .. I looked for a "C" number but couldn't find it under the crud... I saw a circular type casting date which I thought was weird for the year. . 3 2 15

And when I saw the made in Canada and remembered that you had said it could only have been after 1919 that the blocks would have had made in Canada on... well I thought I had found "the missing link" Haha

The 3 was an E and under the crud I found the number. .. then cross referenced your list and came back down to earth!

Anyway.. the slightly obsessive affliction that is model T's did make me wonder how I could get her back on the road. . So unless she is too far gone. .which she definitely isn't. . I had always wanted to build a speedster ... so here we go again!

Cheers
Justin


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Danial - Veneta OR US Earth Solar System on Sunday, December 29, 2013 - 03:52 am:

WTG Justin!

On a side note, I couldn't help but notice your quote on your profile, "You only get smarter by playing a smarter opponent."

My father taught me to play chess when I was about 6 years old and that one thing is what he drilled into my head over and over.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Justin Simon Elliott on Sunday, December 29, 2013 - 05:12 am:

Thanks Danial,

I heard it from a movie called "Revolver"

Another one was something like " the greatest enemy you will ever face will hide in the last place you would ever look " Words to that effect.

About your ego.. profound movie.

Back to the T engine... I am convinced I have an EE crankshaft, and quite excited about that.. But when i went looking for the markings, all I could find was "33" looked like numbers not letters, so who knows

Going back tot he barn on Monday to look a bit better... I would like to find the intake manifold, carb, genny and starter if at all possible.. But I'll grab what I can get! Hahaha

Cheers
Justin


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