You see guys at swap meets looking for parts they're unlikely to ever find; their personal "Holy Grail"...things like a NOS Fisk Red Top tyre.
Some of us seem to have more than one Holy Grail such as Stan Howe, see:
What's your Model T Holy Grail item?
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21" lock-ring Buffalo wheels
Original WW 1 Ambulance that actually saw service in France.
Original aftermarket front brakes....
I'm with Robert - original accessory front brakes.
Tom, I'll swap you two original WW 1 Ambulances for one Sandmobile.
Second Holy Grail would be a Mohawk aux. tranny. I know little about them or even if they're any good but to be able to say:
"My T has a Mohawk"
would be worth the $ needed to buy and restore one.
I want a T Truck with Hercules cab and a Huckster type bed ( for my wifes friends ). I want to build most of it myself and pass along my 1970 F100 to someone who will love it, it goes to fast for me.
A brass era T.
YOU WIN JACK!!!!!!111
Holy cow Jack! I'm with Tom! But I also have to agree with Brooks. Love those brass T's. Did have three..I used to call them my "Three Brassalleros", but now I'm down to two.
1926-27 two door sedan body with doors.
I'm with Robert and Mark.
I've seen pictures of the McNearny and Big Four brakes for the front but never had a chance to buy them.
I copied the design from some of both and made a set for the front of my Torpedo to go with the Bennetts on the rear. I really like them wish I could find some originals.
Oh Ed, That's a good one, the elusive V8 made from T components by an LA Ford dealer.
I think they only made a few until Henry found out about it and told them to stop, or else! Did he also tell them to scrap them all too? Isn't there one or two left somewhere?
That V8's pretty cool! I still would like to slap a little 3 cyl. Yanmar Diesel like I have in my tractor to a T transmission and stick it in a model T!!
Tim, That's blasphemy!!!! Only Model T engines in a Model T. Anything else is a mortal sin.
Just kidding, of course...
I've found mine!
Allan from down under.þ
An un-restored brass Era T that isn't black.
Gene, would love to see your front brakes!
Mea Culpa Keith!
Improved Car Tudor and Touring rear fenders (in good shape!).
Good morning, Keith. Snyders has a Model T V-8 engine in their showroom. If I remember right theirs is equipped with buzz coils.
New old stock parts.
Robert and Ed, Thank you for posting the information and picture of the Model T V8 engine that Snyder's has. I'm definitely going to have to stop there to see it. It looks like it's set up to run, too. Seeing it run would really be a treat!!!
Thanks again to Robert and Ed for this information and picture.
Ed, when I saw the Snyder engine in '09 it wasn't set up to run. Glad to see that it is now. Sure would be a treat to hear it.
What speaks to me is a "Single Stick" Frontenac Overhead Valve Conversion Head . Having that Fronty Single Cam head powering a Mercury Bodied Speedster would be so trick ! - so Part I and Part II in play here.
Mine would be a '15 Center Door sedan with the CORRECT interior,....and a stack of Benjamins to pay for it
Ed, I like the way you think, except the Mercury body is far too classy for me, I'd take a Morton & Brett instead.
I would really like to find a Model T Landaulet.
My 1911 open runabout and the woman who rides in it with me. Also the movie star who owned it.
1909 Model T Coupe or 1909 Towncar either one I'm not that fussy
I want a 1916 Coupelet. Anyone got one?
Space for more.
Found the Mercury, would love an original Morton& Brett or speedway body. Steel not fiberglass.
Don, there is a 09 coupe in Hernando, FL that will be on the market soon I think.
Apparently an unrestored, original interior and engine 1911 Touring!
Jerry, My motto is "it's hard to build a garage that's tooooo big!"
Very early Ford tools.
An original Sprague or similar steering gear.
One of these:
I'm easy, a pair of mint NOS 23-25 exterior door handles.
I really like Ed's V8. I was gonna say an original Ross/Sprague steering box for my speedster, but if I had one I'd trade it in a heartbeat for that V8.
Can we get 2 of Ed's V8 with each with 2 of Tom's Heads as a double stuffed into Jack's toy?
Similar to my motto, "Junk will always expand to fill the space it occupies". I think that's one of the laws of physics, and I always obey the law.
Model T serial # 1.
No question; 1909 Towncar
For Ed, Seth and Chadwick, I really like that V8 engine also, but wonder how long it would last considering it has the stock T early diamond throw crankshaft. Those of us in the two piece crankshaft club sometimes get concerned about things like this.
Jerry, Do you have junk?
Dave, I'd like Model T #1 also, but if I had it, I'd be afraid to drive it. A car like that should be in a super secure museum, etc.
A holy grail is something that is legendary but no one has actually seen. So along those lines I want one of Ford's prototype "improved" 1927 TT trucks. There are pictures, but none are known to exist.
My holy grail item: A running Model T Ford sitting in my garage. I have the non-running trailer baby version. I have heard the running version exists, but have not seen yet in person.
Not my garage but my basement;
Erik, so do you have the pictures of the tt? I am a tt weirdo and am told a livingood under a tt was done, but have yet to see a picture back in the day. A Sr setup. Not quite the awesome grail motors you guys are showing but maybe a myth for the 4x4 tt. fun thread!
Erik, I meant just the 27 improved, not my holy grail 4x4. TS
Livingood made 4X4 conversions for TT trucks. The trucks I was referring to were made by Ford with 26-27 parts. They are pictured in the book "70 years of Ford" by George Damman. Not sure of the spelling on that one. I also have seen a picture of a TT with 27 fenders and closed cab with 27 coupe doors that was wrecked. An old photo, not something that someone made up.
I always wondered how Livingood made the TT conversion work with different gearing between front and rear ends. Must have been quite the transfer case engineering.
Tim I supose I could put a question out to his Grandson, a snowbird down here has him as his neighbor back home.
I did talk to Jessie Jr when I did mine but did not get a straight answer on the TT version. He implied it was done but he would not consider doing one when I asked about it a few years back. Though hard to understand at the time, I had a great conversation with him and chose not to press it. It is one of those stories where I believe it was done by sr but I have yet to stumble across a picture from that time.
Erik, I will try to check out the 70 yrs of ford. Thanks for the info. TS
Geo. Green Engineering flat head. Wouldn't mind one of his front plates either.
I would like to find an original deep sump for a 3 dip pan (thanks to Royce P for the photo)
I would like to have a TT but I need to build onto my garage again this summer before anything new comes home. Tim
Holy Grails? Sorry, no individual parts for me.
A complete Livingood conversion or 3.
A 6 cylinder T. The V-8? Whoa...
OT (Piece de resistance)... And the Number 1. An N that's unmolested (read not restored) and running or almost... Always a decade (century) or so late plus I missed one.
Plow share fenders and step plates is where I was supposed to be.
I do need a cast spark plug socket and bar for my 1912 toolkit.
Allan from down under.
That Kingston 6 ball wasn't anybody's Holy Grail after all. I never got so much as an offer of any kind. NO interest. Part of the reason I bought it and paid so much for it was I thought it would be a good first piece to sell out of my collection. I'm going to be selling my accessory and rare carburetor collection over the summer and this fall. I need money worse than I need bragging rights about having a big collection of Model T carburetors. Holy Grail!!! HUH!!!
Cheer up, Stan! After all, it's only money, and it's Sunday, and the Sun is shining, and we're above the grass!!!
Your friend, Keith
Above ground makes it a beautiful day. Tim