Beautiful Red 1910 Tourabout. All original with exception of later carburetor. $30,000 Car is located in Oklahoma. Contact Alfred Buller at 918-424-2407.
phone number correction for 1910 tourabout for sale. cell phone. 918-424-2707.
Eddy. Do you have pictures? History? Regards. Very interested. David Foreman.
David, Yes I do have pictures, but will have to find someone to help me send them. For history of car contact Alfred Buller at 918-424-2707.
What is the serial number and build date?
sideways pictures are useless. It would probably help your cause to post the photos in a more friendly format.
They are not sideways for me.
all 7 photos are right side up for me too. sorry, doug.
My computer shows them all sideways as well; weird.
Sideways as well. Appears to be nice car, though.
Rod, The serial # is 29717 and the build date is July 8th. The car is currently owned by Alfred Buller 918-424-2707. He purchased the car from a former HCCA board member, John T. Mitchell. Hope this is helpful. Ed
Sideways for me and poor lighting as well. Looks like a very nice car.
This is a very nice looking car. Pictures were sideways for me also, but I just clicked on each photo and saved them to 'my pictures" and viewed them there. Took about 15 seconds to accomplish that. and in "my pictures" I can zoom in to see the details. Some people are not professional photographers or computer gurus. The photos were plenty good enough for me to know if I had the money I would be going to Oklahoma to look at it. Good luck with the sale of a very nice looking car. have fun and be safe ....
Chris, Thank you for reposting the picture. I don't have enough computer skills to do something like that. Ed
Images appear correct when viewed on Iphone 7.
Images are sideways when viewed on Chrome OS netbook.
Either way - that is a nice T .....
1910 Tourabout is still for sale.
It would be helpful to know how much of the chassis parts are 1910. Ie pan, hogshead, front axle components, torque tube, rear end housings etc. You provided the engine number and it appears the rear end and front end are correct, but it would be nice to see it in print. It makes a difference to a prospective buyer.
Richard, Alfred assures me that all parts of the car are correct with the exception of the carburetor. Ed
Given the vertical strip in the center of the rear seat is this not perhaps also a Canadian car?
Tim, I contacted Alfred and as far as he knows it is not a Canadian car. It's my understanding that the back seats on a tourabout were the same as the front seat. Ed
Okay, just curious is all. It does mention this strip in the Canadian section of the latest Judging/Restoration guidelines is all, and doesn't mention it in the "USA section".
Tim, This certainly raises my curiosity. Ed
Ed well either way it's a nice car. If it's canadian, it's like..so what? Right?
Eh? Or is it A?
As a collector, it would be important to know the origin. It is a nice T.
With respect to the vertical strip, the back of the rear seat on a Canadian touring car is smooth across it's width with the vertical strip (belt) on its surface in the middle.
A 1910 Tourabout made in the U.S. uses for a rear seat the same seat assembly as the single-seated Runabout. The Runabout seat is concave on its center-back and seamed with a vertical piece of trim at that point. They are completely different seat assemblies and in this case, the vertical piece of trim is not unique to a Canadian built car.
Walter, Thank you for settling this question. Ed
There's a good example of a Canadian touring rear seat with the vertical strip in this current thread. Scroll down to the only post made on December 9th. It clearly shows the difference between the Tourabout and Canadian Touring:
FWIW here is 1910 Tourabout #9262, with clearly a different strip across the back. I'm sure this one is a US build.
#9262 was well advertised and sold recently. It has rear doors and is a Touring Car. Tourabouts don't have rear doors.
Yep Walt, you're right! Sometimes I can't read! The ad did say Touring. Always something to learn here!
It's all good, nobody got hurt!
Paul, Alfred purchased this car from a museum in Texas. The seller,
john T Mitchell, a former board member of HCCA and owner of a good collection of brass era cars told Alfred that he had gone to great lengths to make sure everything on the car was correct.
Walter, Would you know how many tourabouts were built, compared to the touring cars?
Update, Alfred just informed me that the serial number is 29719. The 29717 posting is incorrect,
He also stated that he had lowered the price to 28.000. but that would be his bottom dollar. Ed
I'm sorry, I don't know any hard numbers. Unless somebody has done it already, I would think it would take a dig through the shipping invoices to figure out. If it's fair to do so using the sampling of invoices in the back of McCalley's book, maybe you can determine some rough ratio based on that.
bump - only 28,000
From my limited knowledge, far fewer Tourabouts were produced than Tourings, making them much harder to find. Eddy, do you know if this car started life as a genuine Tourabout, or did someone put it together as such? Certainly, the original invoice would tell you what it was when it rolled out of Piquette based on the engine number, but that's a $36 dollar investment and at least a two week wait. If this is a genuine Tourabout and not a pieced together restoration from frame up, this is a very good price indeed!
Thanks for Breakfast.
Next time I come through town we will have a meal on me.
Here is an original left side seat back off of an 09-10 tourabout showing the vertical strip.
Robbie, Many thanks to you and others who have posted pictures, It has been a big help. Ed
why has this car not sold??? it should part out for more than he is asking!!!!!!!!!!!! charley
charley, I don't understand why it hasn't sold, but the price is now $26,ooo. Alfred must have found something he really wants for his museum, to part with this lovely car. Ed
Beautiful car and price is very reasonable. I'm restoring now a 1911 and it cost me more than 26K... and it is not finish yet.
Any pictures of the engine of this 1910 beauty?
Some things, are not meant to be understood. Why in the blazes too many cars sell for fifty percent over their actual value (based upon what one is getting relative to other historic cars and their selling prices), yet others seem to be unable to find anyone that wants them. I don't get it.
If I were not so totally broke, and assuming that I did not previously already have other cars that would occupy such a car's space? I would have bought this months ago. The fact is, it is as or more correct as a 1910 than so many '10s out there. It is an older restoration, that has held up very well. As is, it could be used, proudly displayed, enjoyed, and toured as well as any '09 or '10. Or one could re-restore the car (as Tony B is his) and turned into an incredible car!
Real 1909 and '10 model Ts do not sell often. There aren't enough of them, and most of the people that have them want to keep them as the treasures they are. Good touring cars in nice and/or tourable condition in recent years have sold for $40,000 to over $100,000 (okay, the $100K car was extra special). Yet, Charlie S has been trying to sell is very correct unrestored '10 touring car pile for a few years now (for $30,000) and cannot seem to sell it. I know, to restore his would cost. But the simple fact is it wouldn't cost that much! It is a model T for criminy's sake. All the expensive parts are THERE. Cost of restoration for his "10 would be little more than properly restoring a 1914. And people do that all the time for a car that when finished will be worth a third of the finished price of a good '10.
This tourabout is somewhat the same as Charlie's project car. It SHOULD be kept together. Used as is or re-restored, and either way cherished as a restored piece of history. And yet, here it is, not selling as a complete car. When it could be parted out for twice the money. WHY? I don't get it. Kim D knows all about this. He has been forced to part out more than one unfinished '09/'10 car nearly half done because nobody wanted to pay a low price for an unfinished car (estate sales he has handled). In proper comparison, it needs to be pointed out that two of them I know of were assembled from parts, not intact original cars from way back. But they were mostly correct parts, and I know the one I looked over closely myself was very well done, and looked really correct (although there were a few telltale signs I spotted). If finished, it could have been an early T to be proud of at any meet or show. But instead it got parted out to several people hoping to put together an early T themselves. Why?
This tourabout should have sold by now. Whoever gets it will have an incredibly rare, fairly correct, early T.
There are three things I am aware of, that do detract from this car's desirability. None of them should make that much of a difference. And frankly, are barely reasons for it to not be selling for somewhat over $40,000.
Someone that isn't broke needs to buy this car.
Our investment accounts have made 25 percent during 2017. B-J probably will show soft values also.
Our investment accounts have made 25 percent during 2017. B-J probably will show soft values also.Such a nice car.
When is somebody going to buy thios early T! it is a bargain. See the crazy prices that some of those rare and early parts go for in the classifieds and on ebay? This car has them all. Somebody grab it and drive it!
Do not all 09 and 10 open car models have bowed sockets that curve in at their bottoms?
The Tourabouts have straight sockets.
SOLD - The 1910 Tourabout. Thanks for all your input. - Ed
So is the Tourabout top a forerunner of the 11-12 socket design? Really like the red liner. It has a classy brass toy look about it.
its about time!!!!!! charley
Sure hope the new owner posts some pictures of it in its new home, along with any work he/she does on it!
I just hope the car got a good new home and caretaker that will appreciate it and care for it, use it, and enjoy it.
That and that the world's financial and corporate top end suddenly discover true intelligence. World peace would follow that like like a puppy.
I'm sure the car has gone to a good home. The purchaser saw the car when he visited Alfred to inspect the Model N that Alfred had for sale. - Ed
I got breakfast next visit.
What Model T Chapter did I join ?
Freighter Jim -Oklahoma's only MTFCI Chapter, The Oklahoma Special T's. - Ed
Im glad it sold, My wife is "really glad" it sold She thought I was getting way too interested in its "not selling" and was talking way to much about it.
Hey Donnie,...You sold the best antique vehicle that you owned, lucky me. The body, chassis and wheels and transaxle were simmering in a shed at 42"C and the motor was cooking at 47"C yesterday. You keep warm and I will try to keep cool. Regards N.
My dad was the one who bought this car. We are looking forward to getting it home and going over it.
We had been collecting parts for a '10 tourabout and were getting close to having everything to start the restoration when this came up for sale. It gives us a car that we can use this year and we wont have to wait for our parts to be put together.
This all being said, we will be selling our '10 parts that we had been collecting for the past 8 or so years. These are really nice parts that we were extremely picky on buying. Some of the parts that come to mind are:
Complete long block from hand crank to 4th main.
Full set of lights
New Ray Wells Tourabout body
6 rivet rear end
All new wheels with the 5 1/2 inch hubs
Jacobson coil box and coils (to be restored)
Top sockets for tourabout.
There are more parts and pieces, I just haven't looked at this project in a while. These could all be delivered to Chickasha. We want to get the car home and go over it before selling any parts that we may need but I should have a better idea in the next two weeks. Give me a call and I would be happy to talk. 712-301-7172
Ned, I sent you a PM and a phone message: I may want the wheels and lights and other parts for my 1910 Touring!
Good for you & your Dad - sounds like you will have fun.
Eddy - thanks for helping your friend out.
I'm glad it sold, I was starting to consider selling all of my T stuff so I could buy this one!