See Craigs list ad for a picture of a toasted 1926 "T" Austin TX CL
Fire appears to have been electrical, looking at the firewall terminal block, the engine compartment is not burn, but the only wire not fried is the one going to the horn.
The link that Jim posted above is an email address to contact the owner via the Craigslist email relay system.
Here is the link to the ad:
It does not say in the ad that there was an electrical fire so I guess you are assuming there was and you want others to believe in your assumption because you use fuses?
Believe what You want, I didn,t have a fuse in My T either when I got it.But after sparks started shooting out of the dash when I switched the lights on one night, I put in a main fuse, This ad has some clear picture of a model T fire starting from what ever source, that burnt up all of the small wire at the "FIRE WALL" terminal block,and consumed the rest of the car back. Could have been the driver dropped his cigarette in the car, But my 60 + years experience in servicing electrical and electronic equipment tell's me it Looks like a electrical fire, since the engine compartment is not burnt and all the wires on the firewall terminal going to and from the dash are burnt up except the horn wire. But every one can make up their own mind, just as You have. Speaking for My self ONLY. I sleep better knowing My T which is parked in My attached garage is fused.
Tim, it says in the first line of the ad that it doesn't run because there was a fire in the cab.
Jim, I am getting ready to wire my 1911 as original but added LED safety lighting. Should I put a fuse in the hot wire coming from the battery? This electrical stuff is all going under the rear seat. Thanks, Bill
Mysterious combustion I guess, Right Tim?
Why can't you believe a fuse can save your car or even somebody's life. As a ex firefighter I am glad to see people protecting there property and loved ones.
Again, no where in the ad does it say there was an electrical fire so why assume there was?
Just like any car, if your equipment is up to snuff then you'll be OK.
15 million plus - no fuse...
Henry didn't use fuses in his Model T's. But that is likely because they weren't available for automobile use before 1927! I have no quarrel with those who do not use fuses. It is their car, after all. I just happen to like my T, and I know that lots of things vibrate and shift around over the miles. If your hot wire happens to rub the insulation off and you burn up something, even if the car doesn't catch fire, chances are it won't be good.
If you are adding safety lights to your '11, you are probably not worried if a judge sees a fuse under your rear seat. (Having been rear-ended in my "correct" T, I am now an unapologetic enthusiast of safety lights.)
I just think of it this way; I don't ever want to see MY car posted on this forum with the debate as to what caused the fire! I'm just sayin'. . . . the judge won't be subtracting nearly as many points for a fuse as he would from the above-listed car in it's present condition!
Why do you suppose all auto makers eventually started to fuse the wiring in their cars? Back when the Model T was being manufactured no one thought about putting fuses into their autos to protect from shorts and fire. I am sure of the 15 million T's produced a few burnt because of electrical shorts. To suggest anything other than that is foolish. Jim I am with you on this. Adding the fuse is an insurance policy that has a one time cost of around $8.
I only own one T with a starter and generator. It didn't use a fuse from the factory, and it isn't going to get one either! The secret to a good electrical system is good wiring, and clean connections, and common sense.
to fuse or not to fuse that's the question! my my, there is a very good other way to protect your investment.its called a battery disconnect.. no fuse needed.and its hidden from prying eyes. glad I got my confuzer working in the nick of time.
Richard You are most correct, a Battery disconnect works well when the car is parked, no protection bouncing down the road when a wire shorts out, but then most Ts have a fire extinguisher on board to cover such events, "No Problem"
I suspect that if/when I have a fire due to an electrical problem, that by the time I get the fire extinguisher out and save the day, I'll have spent more than $8 on repairs. On my 27, the ignition switch shorted out the magneto. On taking it apart, one of the contacts had melted/burned a large chunk out of the material the contacts were attached to.
The guys who feel fuses are unnecessary remind me of wood workers who come into my store and carry on about the needless expense of a Saw Stop table saw. " I've been using a saw all my life blah blah blah". On several occasions these same guys have come in with a freshly shortened digit and a new found respect for technological advances. It is a costly lesson of which they will be reminded daily for the rest of their lives.
John, I really don't care if anyone else uses fuses or not. That is up to them. You might be able to go the rest of your life without putting a fuse in your model T and never have a problem. That wouldn't be unusual. However what if? That is why I like fuses. My Ts have new wiring, clean contacts and my common sense says a fuse isn't a bad thing. I also like safety glass, turn signals, brake lights, and rear view mirrors even though Ford never put these on a Model T at the factory. I guess we have some people driving around with plate glass windshields because that's what Henry used at the factory. Go figure.
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Is this your car?...
Why post if you have nothing constructive to say? Stir the pot as usual.
I bet that car has fuses in it, That's why he posted it ?
I have 9 Model T's and all either have or will get fuses, and they have all new wiring, a fuse is a small investment for a sometimes large investment. To each his own. Safety is #1
My pickup has it's own little 20 amp circuit breaker.
I did learn a couple things during that 3 years it took me to get a 2 year degree in electronics.
I can take peoples boo's a lot easier than I can rebuild my T if something smokes.
Let's talk about a more civil subject .... like ... "what motor oil should I use in my Model T?"
Hey, I am just trying to de-fuse the situation.
If you let the smoke out it's OK Lucas makes a replacement wire harness smoke #54953043 comes is a bottle and Made in England but for positive earth only?
It only works on BSA Motorcycles :-)
"Lucas Prince of Darkness" MG owner Quote.
Lucas Service Part
Lucas distributor on a English Ferguson T0-30 "I think" tractor! That thing will make you cuss in more than 1 language. I have to go file the points on 1 every spring for a old guy so he can plow his garden. Can't get parts for it. Everything is "close" but no cigar.
You all do know Lucas made vacuum cleaners?
They wanted at least 1 item in their product line that DIDN'T suck.