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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Robert E. (Bob) Blackbourn, Gautier Ms. on Sunday, January 12, 2014 - 05:44 pm:

I'm tired of cats marking their territory in my roadster (and also on the outside). I have tried placing lavender scented "Renuzit" inside the car with good results in the summer, but they don't work when the weather turns cool. Has anyone tried the ultrasonic units such as this one on the web?
http://www.chewy.com/cat/contech-catstop-ultrasonic-cat/dp/101444?utm_source=goo gle-product&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=&utm_content=hg&gclid=COSTuM3U-bsCFTJo7AodE2 YA-g
Any other ideas?
P.S. My wife won't let me keep an alligator

Bob


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jim on Sunday, January 12, 2014 - 05:53 pm:

Bob,

D-O-G



Jim


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Richard Wolf on Sunday, January 12, 2014 - 06:09 pm:

Get rid of the cats.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Clayton Swanson on Sunday, January 12, 2014 - 06:12 pm:

my cat much prefers the top of my model a roadster over the T's, so its easy, buy a model a and your t will be safe


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dan B on Sunday, January 12, 2014 - 06:15 pm:

A friend used this stuff to keep a new cat off the kitchen counters. Says it worked great.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000RIA95G?cache=1389568341&pi=AC_SX110_SY165_QL70 #ref=mp_s_a_1_2

If your car is outside and it's someone else's cat, the owner gets one warning. And then it's time to eliminate the threat.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bill Wilkins, Oregon on Sunday, January 12, 2014 - 06:19 pm:

Live trap & relocate many miles away. Just make sure you don't trap one with a white stripe down the back. Don't ask how i know


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Henry Petrino in Modesto, CA on Sunday, January 12, 2014 - 06:20 pm:

I don't know about where you live, but in many communities your local animal control services agency can issue you a trap to capture the offending cats. You then just transport them back to Animal Services and they're gone.

Of course, a .22 short would work too.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Norman T. Kling on Sunday, January 12, 2014 - 06:28 pm:

Unless you plan to kill the cat, I would offer this advice. Park the car inside a garage which has no openings big enough for a cat to enter. Or if it is your own cat, keep it in the house and never let it out. Or put an alarm on the car which will be triggered by something as light weight as the cat. Only problem is wind might set off the alarm. Rig up a model T coil to shock the cat if it jumps on the car,however it could shock an unaware child or other person. Perhaps a guard dog in the yard with the car might help.
Norm


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Wells on Sunday, January 12, 2014 - 06:28 pm:

Put a litter box beside your roadster.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark Strange on Sunday, January 12, 2014 - 06:30 pm:

Some friends of mine used a squirt gun filled with water to train their cat to stay off the furniture and countertops, it seemed to work great.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By scott hohensee on Sunday, January 12, 2014 - 06:32 pm:

Place some mouse traps on the seat of your car all it will take is the cat getting snapped by the trap once, and it'll remember. and not go near the car again.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Richard Wolf on Sunday, January 12, 2014 - 07:03 pm:

Locked up a cat in my garage for a few days. (By accident) When I went to the garage for something, that cat shot out of my garage and never came back. He was all over my '63 Ford Conv. My '14 t was on my lift and couldn't get to it. It was trying to get out chewing on the insulation with no luck. (Metal building)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mack Cole ---- Earth on Sunday, January 12, 2014 - 07:10 pm:

The cat,if not hurting anything outside,would get nothing.From what I understand most cats dont care for dogs,so maby borrow 1 or adopt 1 from the pound.


But as with the da=# blue bird that has crapped on my cadilac door and made a mess of the kitchen window, he got 3 22 shorts threw at him at a high rate of speed this morning.The 3rd making little white feathers fly and him flying away.
dont know where the ba#(&$(# went and don't care,but if he comes back he will get 20 gauge.

No I dont like birds crapping on my 96 cadi,and I think he got the message implanted.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tim Wrenn on Sunday, January 12, 2014 - 07:31 pm:

I agree with Jim!...he took the words right out of my mouth. Don't let this lazy look fool you...she'll tree a cat before you can get off your keester to chase after the dog!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By James Michael Rogers on Sunday, January 12, 2014 - 07:45 pm:

Mack Cole, wrap your caddy mirrors with a colored grocery bag and the birds will quit that krap (pun intended).


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Harold Schwendeman - Sumner,WA on Sunday, January 12, 2014 - 07:54 pm:

My wife tells me that she recalls something she saw on the internet about the fact that cats hate the smell of orange. She's trying to find the website now, but in the meantime, she said she recalled something about spraying paper towels or rags with orange bathroom spray and which perhaps you could leave in/around the "T".


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By keith g barrier on Sunday, January 12, 2014 - 08:23 pm:

Cats don't care for citrus but it doesn't always work. Vinegar mixed in water and squirted with a bottle or water pistol will soon train them to stay off. KGB


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf, Parkerfield KS on Sunday, January 12, 2014 - 08:27 pm:

A shotgun will clear them off pretty well.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By keith g barrier on Sunday, January 12, 2014 - 08:32 pm:

Shotgun might work, but I'd rather have a few scratches than buckshot holes. KGB


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jim Hycner on Sunday, January 12, 2014 - 08:32 pm:


Live trap if you want to be nice, rat trap if you are really sick of the cat.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Erich Bruckner, Vancouver, WA on Sunday, January 12, 2014 - 08:55 pm:


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By tim moore on Sunday, January 12, 2014 - 09:07 pm:

Duct tape cut into squares and placed sticky side up on the seats, top, hood and fenders--they HATE tape stuck on their feet and dance around trying to shake it off. We did it 30 years ago when first married with a cat that jumped on the counter for the butter dish. Problem solved with no harm to the cat. Later we just put some duct tape on the counter and the cat never again jumped up again. I will admit it was funny to watch but not so much fun to catch the cat and pull tape and hair off him.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Robert E. (Bob) Blackbourn, Gautier Ms. on Sunday, January 12, 2014 - 09:18 pm:

I see I left out some pertinent information.
1. there are many cats from around the neighborhood.
2. none of them are mine
3. I already have a Model A coupe. That gets a dose of pee on the rear window too on the cat(s) way up to the roof.
4. The cars are stored in a building that looks like a double garage but I can't install doors for various reasons.
5. I tried the orange scent idea to keep the cats off the wicker chairs on the front porch. Worked somewhat but not as good as the lavender. Again, that only works in warm dry weather as the scent has to "evaporate". I live on the Mississippi gulf coast where high humidity is the norm. That inhibits the evaporation process.
6. Most of the cat activity is at night and I am busy dreaming about my next car project or trip.
7. We do have some squirrels, perhaps I could equip them with guns.

Thanks for the suggestions so far.

Perhaps the animal control officer and trapping will be the way to go.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Nathan Bright on Sunday, January 12, 2014 - 09:30 pm:

i have a buddy that puts perfume on his cars.. no more cats!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By G.R.Cheshire on Sunday, January 12, 2014 - 09:34 pm:

I don't think a dog will help much


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dexter Doucet on Sunday, January 12, 2014 - 09:46 pm:

Maybe a car cover would help. I've got feral cats everywhere in my 1st class neighborhood. I've got a crack in my shop window for the T 's gas fumes which also allows my favorite cats to enter. The cats I don't like stay out. I've got paw prints all over my T but I don't care. Can't bring my semi feral cats in the house when it gets cold so I really like them having the option of going in the shop. As for the cats I don't like and don't want to feed, I've got a airsoft pistol to chunk plastic BB's with. Plenty of fun and no guilt. Won't crack glass or chip paint.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Semprez-Templeton, CA on Monday, January 13, 2014 - 12:48 am:

Most cats have weak immune systems when it comes to lead poisoning however the administration of the dosage often invokes the ire of casual observers and other like minded "busybodies".

My prefered method now, to discourage feline curiosity, is the less lethal Ford coil method. Just remember, you will need a nice ground plane to augment the tingle available from the Ford coil secondary. A sheet of metallic screen will become a Faraday's cage if the cat leaps onto an energized seat thus prepared, with no results. I like to add random strips of screen well insulated from the active element tied electrically to the negative of the low voltage power source. The education process has been immediate and thus far permanent.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Fred Dimock, Newfields NH, USA on Monday, January 13, 2014 - 09:33 am:

Try placing a few open jars with rags and ammonia in the area.

BTW a squirt bottle with water did not work as a training devise with our cats.
We tried using it to keep them off the table, but they think it is game.
They get on the table, talk to us as if to say look at me, and dare us to squirt them.
When we do they run into the other room and a few minutes later poke their heads around the corner and talk to us again.




Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Norman T. Kling on Monday, January 13, 2014 - 11:27 am:

We don't have very many cats around here, but lots of Coyotes.
Norm


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Michael Mullis on Monday, January 13, 2014 - 11:59 am:

shoot them


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Kenneth W DeLong on Monday, January 13, 2014 - 12:04 pm:

Henry.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Erich Bruckner, Vancouver, WA on Monday, January 13, 2014 - 12:18 pm:

All you have to do is start marking the territory as yours. But if you don't want cat pee around, you probably don't want your own pee around either. All things considered, I like the duct tape laying face up idea. It is not smelly, non-lethal, won't hurt the car, it works if you are not there, and cats hate getting stuck to it. I only request that you get a video of the moment for us.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Will Copeland - Trenton, New Jersey on Monday, January 13, 2014 - 12:23 pm:

Not to be crude but I agree, The only way to stop something from destroying your investment is to permanently get rid of it. If the owner dose not have enough respect for there animals then they get what's coming. I had that problem a few years ago. I solved it. No more problem.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By keith g barrier on Monday, January 13, 2014 - 01:01 pm:

Guys, all I will say is be careful. If you get caught eliminating cats feral or otherwise most states have some tough laws on the books. Probably you would come nearer getting off if you shot your neighbor. KGB


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hal Davis-SE Georgia on Monday, January 13, 2014 - 01:10 pm:

Cats are smarter than some humans. Once you understand cats, you'll come away with a much better appreciation. If you never learn to understand cats, you have indeed missed out on part of life.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Richard Wolf on Monday, January 13, 2014 - 01:19 pm:

Simple fact; Cats get on cars, Dogs don't.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Derek Kiefer - Mantorville, MN on Monday, January 13, 2014 - 01:23 pm:

I can think of .22 ways to get rid of cats. :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jim Patrick on Monday, January 13, 2014 - 01:42 pm:

Anyone who hates cats and would advocate shooting them without remorse has never owned one. Cats have surpassed dogs as the most popular pet in America and are not the cold, heartless, aloof animals that some have perceived them to be.

Cats are independent, loyal, lovable, inquisitive, intelligent, playful and make great companions. If they like talking to you, you can almost have a more intelligent conversation with a cat than with most people. Back in the old west, cowboys that were assigned lonely fence riding duties on the range used to take a cat with them to the far reaches of the range where they would spend the winter, to keep them company because, unlike dogs, cats could feed themselves with field mice and rats and would come back home at night to keep the cowboy company and keep him from going stir crazy.

As you can imagine, I don't mind saying I'm a staunch cat lover and don't enjoy posts advocating the shooting or hurting of cats. If someone shot or hurt any of my cats in any way and I found out about it, you can imagine what this old Marine would do to them, so please advocate less violent, more imaginative means with which to handle the problem without creating more problems for yourself from the cat owner that may not appreciate the violent demise of his little family member at your hands. I like John Semprez's imaginative solution that actually uses the car to discourage cats or people for that matter, from touching his car. Jim Patrick


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Robert E. (Bob) Blackbourn, Gautier Ms. on Monday, January 13, 2014 - 01:58 pm:

UPDATE :
Just met with the city's animal control officer. He was very interested in both the A and the T and agreed the cats have to go. All his traps are currently in use, but he expects to have some available in a few days. He is going to set up 2 traps each evening and then check back each morning. I will not have to do anything (although a ride in the T may be in his future :-))
As a side note he said he has picked up over 4500 cats in the 5 years he has been working for the city (human population less than 14,000).

Thanks for all the suggestions
Bob


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jim Patrick on Monday, January 13, 2014 - 02:03 pm:

As a service to my neighbors, I would print an ad in the editorial section of the local paper and let them know the problem and what I was about to do, so if their cat does disappear, they can go to the SPCA or local humane society and bail out their cat before it get euthanized (gassed). Jim Patrick


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Fred Wicker on Monday, January 13, 2014 - 02:23 pm:

Put a boat in the garage.Cats love boats more then anything else!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Harold Schwendeman - Sumner,WA on Monday, January 13, 2014 - 02:40 pm:

Jim - Well written, and I agree. While I can certainly understand Bob's frustration, I don't believe shooting the cats is good advice. I debated whether I wanted to get into this discussion at all (except my comment above on the orange spray) because it's one of those things that no matter what I'd say, it would ruffle some feathers. I like all animals,....I just don't want one,....dog or cat. Because as you say Jim, if one chooses to have a pet, it should be with the conviction to properly take care of it,....dog or cat. And "properly taking care of it" entails some work. That means picking up after your dog, and a litter pan for your cat, not to mention considering having the pet "fixed" by the vet. That business of "putting the cat out" every night is totally irresponsible, and one reason for feral cats. One thing will never change; there are dog lovers who hate cats and there are cat lovers who hate dogs, and there are those that love all domestic animals as well as those that hate all domestic animals. And in my opinion, those attitudes I just mentioned are too often, NOT formed from actual experience, just pure prejudice! I guess to be fair while I'm on this "rant", I should also mention that I feel that there are gun lovers who will use just about anything they can think of as an excuse to shoot at something (whether they'll admit it or not). I decided to just list a few other facts that might be worth considering:

Because I feel that there are far more dog lovers than cat lovers, can you imagine the outrage that would be caused if someone on the forum advised shooting stray dogs?

Ever wonder why there are so many "dog catchers" in so many towns and cities, but nobody EVER heard of a "cat catcher"? Yeah,...catch the dogs and shoot the cats, right?

In most peoples minds, what domestic animal do you think first comes to mind upon hearing the term,....humane society?

Yeah, I was probably on the right track when I considered not getting into this discussion at all, and please understand that this is in no way directed at anybody that posted on this thread, except to say that I certainly agree with what Jim Patrick said,....FWIW,.....harold


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Harold Schwendeman - Sumner,WA on Monday, January 13, 2014 - 02:42 pm:

Bob, Jim & Fred - Sorry,....you all posted while I was "composing" my "rant",......harold


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By keith g barrier on Monday, January 13, 2014 - 02:49 pm:

Well while we're here, here's fat Max my old shop cat. He is to old and fat to get on the T anymore(wouldn't care if he did) so he spends about 20 hours a day around the wood heater or on this extra wide window sill I fixed for him. KGB


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Kenneth W DeLong on Monday, January 13, 2014 - 02:57 pm:

Stray dogs are protected,cats not.Simple,if you have critters keep them home! Anyone who values critters more than people should get help!! Bud.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hal Davis-SE Georgia on Monday, January 13, 2014 - 03:21 pm:

Spay or neuter! It is irresponsible not to. I have an outdoor cat who is free to wander.....but he doesn't. He has no desire to. Plenty of birds and field mice to keep him happy. I doubt he ever leaves the property.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Semprez-Templeton, CA on Monday, January 13, 2014 - 03:38 pm:

I should restate my position on cats. We live on a ranch where our cats and dogs work together with us to keep rodents and snakes from encroaching on and in our living areas... barns, garages and houses. Occasionally one of our little helpers will get injured or sick. If the injury is causing suffering and is deemed terminal, like being torn up by a wild animal, we must take the humane step and euthanize our little friend. Peeing on a car or pooping in the garage is not a capital offence in my book... just a chance to train the offender.

I have successfully used the Ford coil method to stop the neighbors dog from spreading our trash all over the yard, and have used the same method to keep cats out of my wife's garden boxes (hence the Faraday's cage discovery).

Around here the retraining is just and swift with no time for exotic scents or other trial and error methods. Everyone seems to accept this and we all get along well as a result.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Fred Schrope - Upland, IN on Monday, January 13, 2014 - 04:32 pm:

Electric fence chargers are great things. I've used them to hold hogs, sheep, goats and even dogs and cats - as well as coyotes. I don't know exactly how you'd use one of them to keep cats off cars, but I'd love to see a dog heist a leg on a hot wire. Heck, I'm sitting here laughing just thinking about it. I've had one that has been sitting out there running for almost 30 years now with no problems.

One more thing though, I did burn up 2200 bales of hay when a bale fell off the stack close to it. They can be dangerous sometimes.

Also, I put cardboard or furniture pads on top of the cars so the cats claws don' poke holes in the tops.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jack Daron - Brownsburg IN on Monday, January 13, 2014 - 07:08 pm:

All you got to do is throw a cover over the car,they won't get on it then.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Harold Schwendeman - Sumner,WA on Monday, January 13, 2014 - 07:21 pm:

You're right Jack. Wouldn't have thought of it until you mentioned that, but I keep my '27 depot hack in our 2-car carport during Spring, Summer and Fall nice weather, and I've seen "catprints" on the car when NOT covered, but I've never seen catprints on the cover. Most car covers seems to have some sort of odd smell due to the type of material(s) used in making the covers, and I'll bet that it's a "stench" that cats don't like,.....(a benefit I would never have thought of)......thanks for the post Jack,.....harold


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Robert E. (Bob) Blackbourn, Gautier Ms. on Monday, January 13, 2014 - 07:35 pm:

Excerpt from the local animal control ordinance:

"2. It is unlawful for any dog, cat, domesticated livestock, or any other owned animal to run at large upon the streets, alleys, or other public or private property not your own unless restrained by a leash or lead.

3. All domesticated animals must be SECURELY confined to your property.

Violations of any of the above laws may result in your animal being impounded, or charges being filed against you, or both."

As to throwing a cover over the car, there is not enough room to move around the car when it is stored. I must drive the car up the ramp and six inches away from the wall on the drivers side and just enough room on the passengers side to get out and shuffle sideways to the back of the car. I then push it the rest of the way in and slide a chock behind the rear wheel. As I said before, installing a "garage door" is not an option. It is a shed that was never meant to be a garage.
Regards,
Bob


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jack Daron - Brownsburg IN on Monday, January 13, 2014 - 07:40 pm:

Ever think maybe the cat is the lesser evil...?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Wells on Tuesday, January 14, 2014 - 08:05 pm:

"Cats shall be free to go where ever they will roam", the king has declared!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mike Vaughn on Tuesday, January 14, 2014 - 08:57 pm:

I live out in the country and would not want to be without a few cats around, I have a large neutered tom that stays in and around my shop, he does not get on the cars and he does not allow any of the other cats (except his mom) in the area, he will run them off. The neutered tom does not mark territory so he is nice to have around, He is also death on mice, that's why I keep him around.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Clayton Swanson on Tuesday, January 14, 2014 - 09:09 pm:

my cat too is a mass murderer. 11 old buildings here and he gets several mice most days he's out. my wifes car that drives every day was just found to have a nest in the air cleaner box, so they are still around but the cat must help.


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