The local car club is having a Saturday get together. It's more of an informal club, just some local guys that mostly have muscle cars. They will be driving about 50 miles round trip, then meeting at the local burger joint for supper. Since this is the ONLY local car club I am considering joining the Saturday run. My concern is of course my T only runs about 35. So obviously I can't keep up and after supper I will have to drive home (about 5 miles) with the T lights (more like firefly's in a mason jar). What do yall do in these types of situations? Just sit them out?
Do you have a tail light and brake light? If the answer is yes, then I say GO! Depending on what they are driving some of the muscle car guys will go slower just cause they're only interested in cruising, not flying around. It's hard to be seen looking cool in a sweet ride when you're going fast.
Whenever the topic of speed comes up with muscle car guys I always challenge them to build a T speedster with a T engine and try and keep up with ME.
As long as your lights work, no reason to sit this one out. For that 5 miles home, what kind of road is it? What's the speed limit? Are there any street lights?
Seth, I do have a working tail light and both headlights work (although not bright) The road home is dangerous the speed limit is 55 with no street lights. Perhaps an additional slow moving vehicle reflective triangle would be beneficial.
I don't drive my T at night a lot, but I wouldn't stay home from something like this because of it. The headlights are "bright enough" for 30 mph. I have some auxiliary tail/brake lights that I made from trailer lights that I strap on for night time driving, and I stick to the back roads. I think you can get similar lights that are magnetic mount.
You may want to consider a flashing magnetic light that can be seen from a hundred yards behind you. I even use them when its cloudy. I buy them at TRUCK parts stores.
Those are good ideas, I will check the local parts store and see what they have.
I just installed a bright flashing red LED light I got at a bicycle store.
Rob, why do you feel you are not safe? I drive my T at night all the time and it has not been a problem.
The standard T battery operated headlight works just fine if set up correctly. By that, I mean good clean silvered reflectors, 32-32 bulbs with the correct filament orientation, good grounding back to the battery and focusing along with aiming the headlights per the Ford service manual. As for the back, you can hang a flash led light on the spare and go for it.
Given what I see in your profile pic, you have beautiful car, but your headlight reflectors are cosmetic only. They are either plated or painted wrong. That is were you need to start.
Here's yet another thought I had (very scary-me thinking!) to make our black, practically rear-lightless cars more visible. We've all seen that fantastic red/white reflector material on the back of semis. This spring-if it ever gets here- I'm going to fabricate some sort of removeable strip about two feet long that can be mounted on the rear of these. They show up from headlights a good quarter to half mile away and get brighter the closer the following vehicle gets to them. I think this would be a great, battery-less way to attract attention.
Rob, I've driven at almost pitch dark with my "standard" T lights, front and rear, with no real problems except they were country roads. Little to no traffic. If you already deem the road dangerous, I think I'd skip it unless you come up with a better way of rear-end identification. Who knows, that burger could very well end up being your "last supper"
Just my two cents
If one of your musclecar buddies lives close by, why not ask them to "run blocker" for you and follow you home?
Dave, I have thought about the headlight reflectors. I saw a post the other day about removing the headlight ring to get to the bulb and possibly polishing the reflective part. What is that a nickel plating? What can I polish it with?
I belonged to a club like that and most of the cars were in the 50's and I seemed to hold them up when touring. They would put me in front and I would set the pace which made me feel I had to go faster than I felt comfortable.
Rob, are you concerned about seeing or being seen my 27 has electric lights and I can see the road O.K. but I want to make sure other drivers can see me so I zip tie one of these to the light bar (or any other place you can find) and point it so that the main beam is about 25 feet in front of the "T" Improves others ability to see you and can be removed easily and with 3 AAA batteries it last about 6 months! http://www.harborfreight.com/6-3-4-quarter-inch-109-led-flashlight-98506.html
I'm in a similar club. Like Richard W. I hate to slow them down and drive faster that is comfortable.
I have found that leaving earlier than the rest of them works out well if I know where they are going. I don't mind driving at night with one taillight unless it is in heavy traffic.
You sound like you're trying to talk yourself out of it. My $0.02: If you cant at least get someone to follow you home with 4-ways flashing stay home. Frankly, and this is strictly my opinion, you don't belong in a muscle car club. This problem will only repeat itself until something bad happens. My '23 had tail lights, turn signals & 4-ways (installed by me) and it didn't make a bit of difference. You're in the way. Even with the other drivers obeying a 55 MPH limit and you'll be pushing your, I assume stock, T to it's limit. Bad medicine.
Charlie, I think I may meet them at the meet up place then at the dinner location. That way I won't hold them up and I can do some driving on my own. I did find the source to my poor front lighting. I just walked out to the shop and apparently a previous owner had painted the reflective lenses with chrome spray paint. Looks like some new reflectors from Langs will be in my future...
Though within the comfortable day-drive range of a Model T, fifty miles is nevertheless a significant jaunt and you didn't mention whether you were planning to take a highway. You can't safely traffic-jam with 65-mph cars on a 55-mph interstate unless your muscle car friends are willing to give you a low-speed escort (and, ideally, the guy behind you is hauling the trouble-trailer with a Mack dump-truck).
The 5-mile return trip sounds like a can-do, depending on the kind of roads we're talking about—and I'm guessing they'll be local streets with stop-signs and traffic lights. If a bicycle can do that with it's dinky, penlight-battery tail-light, so can you, but the operation would be a whole lot safer if you had one modern car escorting you from behind.
Knowing we'd be returning from local, summertime cruise-ins at dusk, I had a modern, 12-volt electrical system installed on our Flivver, along with two extra tail-lights mounted up high, where they can be easily seen. The original 9-volt headlight bulbs had to be switched over to 12-volt types, of course and they're almost as bright as sealed-beams, so I figure I'm okay at night on 30-mph roads.
By the way, anybody driving a Model T at night really should have one of these inexpensive, reflective, red-and-white, magnetic-mount signs:
You can buy them online, here:
they sell these at the MTFCA store, they are a bit pricey but they are very bright. You not only get turn but flashers as well, it is easily removed and is wireless.
My set up. Also totally removeable/no holes drilled. What they'd expect to see and where they'd expect to see it. Very bright. Could have kept my lettuce in that piece of dead cow in my back pocket for all the good it did. I'd rather get rear-ended at 50 in a modern than at 10 in a T.
Of course there are "different strokes for different folks".
Having said that, your profile picture is quite interesting - you possess a "storage facility" many would - may I use the vernacular - "to die for" - to say nothing about your "special person".
Taking into consideration my life's experiences on the darkened roads at night, and what you have at home, would you consider taking modern metal to the gathering and save the T for daylight driving?
You, the special people in my life,and even I try to drive carefully, sensibly and defensively, yet I read about many Yahoos out there that cause problems for others.
I don't really mean to be a Chicken Little, but there are situations out there that are best avoided ....
sad state of affairs these days:
I run with Model A's all the time, and did a run with the Early V8's in the Fall. Those groups aren't interested in going fast, just driving their cars so no problem. Not sure about a muscle car group. I wouldn't think 5 miles at night in a T would be worrisome, unless you're getting on and off the highway.
Could you maybe ride with one of the group this first time to see how it goes, then make a more informed decision on bringing the T next time?
Dave Dave Dave . . . he was just visiting that hangar while driving the T and the pretty girl working there asked him if she could take a picture with the car. He was just slick enough to put his arm around her at the last second.
=P I kid. But I do kind of want to punch Rob if that's really his 'garage'. I have GOT to make more $$$.
Tours with modern cars don't work out unless they are respectful of the Model T's and go slow so everyone can keep up. We have a rule in our club, that if someone drives a modern car, they must drive behind the Model T's.
Driving at night, if you are in a city with slow speed limits and street lights, go for it, but on dark rural roads, I personally would not drive at night unless I happened to be caught after dark unexpectedly. I suppose you could put on some extra lights, especially in the back if necessary.
Rob......I consider no street lights a huge advantage to night driving.
Sometimes the refections in all the glass make things kind of hairy........
Rob, put a few Halogen light bulbs in the car and you should be fine
I think a large part of my problem is my reflectors in the headlights. It looks as if long ago the silver wore off and was subsequently painted over with spray paint which is not reflective at all. Does anyone have a decent set of silver reflectors they may want to sell?
Yeah, but the REAL problem is that by the time you catch up with them, they'll be through eating!
This is how dad did it. Have'nt the heart to change it and it works.
Thought I would let everyone know how the cruise in went Saturday. I motored the ole T up to the Wal-Mart parking lot. There were about thirty cars. I was parked between a 2009 Corvette and a 57 Chevy. Talk about out of place!! I did not go with them on the drive for fear of holding them up. But, I did find it interesting out of all the cars the little T drew the most attention. Everyone wanting to look and asking questions. They may not be the fanciest cars or the fastest, but I sure do love'em. I want to thank a forum member for helping fix my lighting problems. Turns out someone had spray painted my reflectors a grey color. After about four hours I had managed to remove all the spray paint and found the beautiful silver still underneath. I got out my wife's silver polish and went to town. It made all the difference in the world.
Was that 'T' with the duct taped lights owned by Red Green?
Rob, sounds like a good solution for that event. Getting a T out to any car event is good PR. Way to go.
Glad the silver polish idea worked. I had the same thing on my car. Must have been to much work for someone to polish the silver so they just painted it!
Is this the one 15 Feb in Savannah?
This was a local club gathering in Fitzgerald.