Have been finishing my 26 roadster and am having a question on adding fender welting on the turtle deck area (around the trunk sides and over the back) Should I do it or not? Never have seen one done--but am concerned about having the metal to metal contact and squeaks when I get it done.
Anyone have any suggestion?
Did a search on this for previous postings and did not find a good answer...
Factory anti squeak welting on NOS turtle deck.
Runs around the upper and lower sides of the deck
Here is another pic, from original '27 runabout.
Welting has a small bead on the outside, not as large as the Model A fender welt, but Model A works ok.
Welting Ford factory part # 41218X 'Anti-Squeak (deck to body)
Thanks for the pics. Have found a box of 'new' welting that looks like what you have in the pics.
It is at least 60 years old...but has been well stored and should work... Looks like some more work in getting the holes cut around the bolt holes.
Does anyone know of a source for the correct size welt for the Model T?
It seems I read somewhere that the welt was painted body color. Any confirmation on that?
How far back does the welt go? All the way to the end of the frame?
I found in a previous post that the closest size of welt for the T is the Model A cowl welt. It measures 10 ft long which would work perfectly as long as only two strips are needed for the sides of the turtle deck. If the welting runs around the back too, it would take 13.5 ft.
Can anyone confirm where the welting goes on the 26-27 turtle deck, i.e. if it was one 13.5 ft long piece or two 5 ft pieces?
I was going to suggest the 30-31 Model A gas tank welting, it is smaller than the fender welting. Also, it's not hard to make your own welting, a long strip of black Naugahyde, some string for the filler, you fold it over the string and glue it together, or if you have a commercial sewing machine, you can stitch it too.
Thanks David, the gas tank (cowl) welting for the A seems to be the closest match. Nobody sews in my family so I'll go with Snyder's product and make use of family visits to save international shipping.
I still don't know how much to buy. Anyone know how much welting is needed for a 27 turtledeck?
Back when I did my roadster pickup used the common Model A fender welt. It seemed OK but is larger than the Model A cowl tank welt I guess.
Ended the run of welting at the rear fender. As for a runabout turtle deck, did that years ago and did run the welting around the turtle deck too. Other T's at car shows did the same so I just copied. Not sure what Ford did.
This is a factory picture of new Improved runabout loaded in freight car, will try to see if I can re-find the source and get a better image of the rear deck showing welting, if the photo will show it
Thanks Dan. Cool picture of the semi-knocked down runabout in the freight car! If you find a higher resolution of that picture a few more useful details will appear.
Found this photo. Close up examination by my eye sure looks like anti-squeak welting is under the rear deck of the turtle.
Ford Part #48218X Anti-Squeak (deck to body) 1926-1927 0.15cents per yard.
This works very well on all years of T where two sheetmetal body parts fit together. Old fashoned friction tape. That is the cloth tape impregnated with tar. In fact, that is probably where the name "friction" tape came from. You can put it on the flat surfaces and it doesn't show then bolted together. I did put fender welt on the front and rear fenders of my 26's, but not on the turtle deck. I am not sure whether they came from the factory with the fender welt.
Friction tape was used on the model As between bolted pieces, such as the gas tank to cowl under the windshield area.
Mine had welting all the way around so I made adjustments of the one in the freight car it looks like welting going under the spare tire carrier and the welting appears to be the body color.
The thing to be mindful here is the diameter of the welt. There are many different sizes.
I found it on eBay - it was shipped from Sacramento ford and was exactly like what I pulled off except for the plastic inside.
Thanks for the input guys!
Sacramento Ford mentions that their 3/16" welt has a grain design. That would make it look like the old style cloth type welting and in addition if I end up painting it body color, that would help to hold the paint too.