I found it interesting to see PURE gasoline, no ethanol added was the norm in Oklahoma City. Low price of 3.39 Here in Indiana I believe it must be the law that ethanol must be added making our gasoline far inferior.
Makes perfect sense doesn't it?
"I'm from the government and I'm here to help you."
Regular gas (ethanol) in Southern Califunny is around $4.00 a gal. or more....depending where you go (Costco was $3.97 today). In Califunny, we have summer blend, winter blend and who knows what other blend being pushed by EPA and other money grabbers. Gas mileage suffers, less corn for food & feed for the good of the people??
We are being driven towards cars/trucks providing better fuel mileage.....do away with ethanol and mileage will improve.
I thought I was the only person in the world who got reduced mileage, causing me to use more fossil fuel for the same miles driven! Now they're offering (and considering extending)a $1.00/gal tax credit for biodiesel added to diesel. When I noticed recently my dually fuel mileage dropped by nearly 25%, I was refueling and pondering what I was doing differently when I saw the sticker-"contains 8-20% biodiesel". Again, I'm using more fossil fuel to travel the same miles! How's that helping anything?
What I don't get is the fact they haven't improved the mileage that much. My brother bought a Suzuki Swift a few years back and got a pretty consistent 50 mpg till he had to go to the ethanol gas and it dropped the mileage to about 40. He still has the car with over 250k on it and still going. Suzuki however dropped that model after just a few years and it's replacement only got about 30 mpg. Don't make sense to me. KGB
It is roughly an 18% reduction in mileage, I've done the math many times. Growing up, ethanol blend was always a penny cheaper per gallon. Then it went to a nickel cheaper per gallon. A few years ago it was a dime cheaper per gallon.
It stayed that way for a long time, mind you the whole time it was an 89 octane level (while advertising the less attractive 87 octane of pure gasoline).
Couple years ago it was reduced to 15 cents per gallon cheaper.
Last year it's octane level was REDUCED to 87, same as gas, and now it is 30 cents per gallon cheaper.
I don't know about you, but it is a subtle government force upon us to buy the ethanol. By slowly increasing the price difference, the government must have figured out that those of us who can so math, have figured out it was cheaper to buy straight gas. So in return, spread the price gap making it seem ethanol is a better buy.
I always burn straight gas in the T (Statement made to adhere to the policy of keeping the discussion hobby related) ;)
Just my 2 cents.
Non-ethanol Gas is becoming a staple of the gas stations in FL. because the ethanol was destroying small lawn care equipment enough people griped and Gov Scott signed a bill making it easier for stations to sell the good stuff!
When in the OKC area for Chickasha, I noticed gas prices were about the same as quoted.When we left Houston, I filled up at a Kroger grocery and paid at least 10 cents less (with a discount). I didn't notice in OK whether gas was ethanol free, but I know most places in Texas have blended gas and there are at least two blends, summer and winter. Since OK is colder than south Texas in the winter, I don't know how they get away without having different blends.
The regular 87 octane around here is priced up to $4.17.9.
Sales tax is charged on the dollar amount. The more a gallon of gas costs the more the tax will be.
People love it. They just keep voting the same crooks into office.
People in this area are dancing in the streets, they are so happy with the present group of thugs in state and federal offices.
I remember reading years ago that before there were gas stations farmers and such would run their Model Ts on a combination of Moonshine and lard. The lard was for a lubricant. Has anyone tried to duplicate this mixture.
$1.48 US for a gallon of unadulterated 87 octane gas here. No complaints
Gary, I guess you don't have any complains, but to make it worth the trip to Ecuador to fill up, we in the states, would have to come to fill up in a gas tanker truck, and then we'd have to fill only half the compartments; filling the other half with diesel to be able to make it back to the US with the truck!!!
Terry, I asked my Brother, a long time reporter there that said people revolted in OKC against adulterated gas. Most stations I saw driving around town are advertising PURE GAS in big signs. Likewise, how can they do it and we cannot in Indiana ????
I miss the days when a new "Service Station" would open across the street from an existing "Service Station" and it would start a gas war lowest price I saw was .09 per gallon in Tampa Fl. 1963 I think. Now when a new Gas/grocery store opens it seems that is an excuse to raise the prices go figure!
Not far from where we live there was a gas/service station that was probably 40+ years old. It had 2 islands and a shop for servicing and repairs. It was a very quiet place - not much business.
About 6 or 8 months ago all of a sudden one day it was gone, leaving a vacant lot. Soon construction started on a new "fast mart" and gas station. They charge more for the gas and on top of that they charge a $.35 fee for the use of a card. I refuse to patronize them based on the fee alone, but the place is packed 24/7. Of course you can now get beer, soda, snacks, etc. while you gas up, all of which are grossly overpriced.
I just don't get it.
"Of course you can now get beer, soda, snacks, etc. while you gas up, all of which are grossly overpriced."
--around here, folks get those with their EBT cards---
sorry for the thread drift, but those actions really raise my hackles...because you and I pay for it!
The early Dodge Cummings got great mileage with a mechanical injector. The late Cummings using electric injection but cleaner I guess gets less mileage
How would you like to have a bunch of 2 to 5 hundred K heavy equipment machines you have to upgrade?
Dave - Sorry to be dense but what's an EBT card?
Henry, EBT Card worse taxpayer rip off ever ! (After the OBAMA Phone)
In the 1970's folks in need got food stamps. Stamps wee torn off at the grocery store separate to buy meats, grains, milk eggs etc no junk food.
Well the progressive liberals said (this is a STIGMA) they need a credit card so folks wont know you are on food stamps. Hence the birth of the EBT card.
Big problem now EBT cards can be used just like credit cards in liquor stores, casinos, strip clubs etc and can use them to get CASH withdraw. hence, when they should be used to buy FOOD for the kids, they can be used for vices such as cigarettes, liquor and drugs, hence the KIDS go hungry. Look at any inner city liquor store with the Big EBT accepted here sign along with the big ATM inside sign