I have a really nice late T engine (has the two bolt holes on back end) that not only has no SN stamped onto it but never had any Ford name cast into the block. Does anyone know what the history of these is, assuming that there are others out there?
I suspect that it does not have Made in Canada on it either.
Typical. The later blocks don't have Ford script.
Your 'no serial' block is likely a factory replacement block never used, or at least never stamped block.
26/27 engines did not have Ford or made in
USA cast in the block. I have built Canadian engines that have the script. No serial number means it is a replacement block that was never stamped.
That's interesting. The 26/7 engines I've done
in the past were all Canadian ones so never was aware that Ford USA didn't put their name etc on them. I had assumed that perhaps this engine was made by Ford for another company that was using it in agriculture etc and didn't want another company's name on it. My engine has been run before but is standard sized everywhere with max 0.002 dia taper in the cylinders. Is this too much to leave?
.002"? That's barely past the break-in period.
.002" Has always been our target for any T motor we've ever worked on, once the engine oil is added it takes up the .002" space very nicely. Were not pros nor do we claim to be engine builders, but sounds like you have an engine that's ready for several thousand miles of running....
Ford USA made some of the engines for Canadian Model Ts and removed the Made in USA at their request to save them some import or export tax.
You can also find some Canadian engines with the Made in USA ground off.
I do not recall all the details, perhaps only the blocks were cast in USA. Seems like the details are in Bruce MaCalley's big black book.
James, there were a few company's out here in Australia in the late teens and early 1920's that used all Model T running gear and were not called fords and used unbranded blocks and covers, Blocks with made in USA on them were ground off or down but the made in USA is still very visible to get past the import duty's but some with USA on got through. All the replacement blocks I have seen have the Made IN USA up till 1918 on them and other later ones had Made in Canada on them .
I understand in Canada they started casting their T Ford engines in 1919. - Are these castings interchangeable with US castings?- (Canadian engine block with US head and vice versa.)
If they ain't, I am in big trouble.
I see quite a few cars that have American blocks with Canadian heads and vice versa of course.
One thing I have noticed is the ports on the side of block are .080 closer to the deck than USA blocks, when you install hardened seats there is not much room to hold the seats in. My first Canadian block, I thought the deck had been milled a bunch then the second and third I measured bottom of block to ports and there was a different height.
Joe I have one of those blocks but it has Made In USA on the side. I would have to check but I think mine is even closer, to the point seats can't be installed and it has never been milled.
(Message edited by redmodelt on November 25, 2014)