Some Carburetors

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2014: Some Carburetors
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Stan Howe Helena, Montana on Tuesday, April 15, 2014 - 02:44 am:

Here are 4 Kingston 4 Balls going to South Africa. Notice the right hand drive throttle arms.



Here is a Stromberg OC-2 ready to go back together.






This is a Breeze going to Australia as soon as I get the throttle shaft made and installed.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Stan Howe Helena, Montana on Tuesday, April 15, 2014 - 02:55 am:

This is a Rayfield MV3 that is installed on an early Fiat. The original was missing so they bought this one and installed it. It's an airvalve type of carb. This one will end up in Thailand.



Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Michael Deichmann, Blistrup, Denmark on Tuesday, April 15, 2014 - 05:51 am:

Globalisation have reached even to Montana I must say :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By G.R.Cheshire on Tuesday, April 15, 2014 - 06:40 am:

Stan; Do you have a protégé , If not you need to find one! You do excellent work.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dennis Seth - Ohio on Tuesday, April 15, 2014 - 07:13 am:

Beautiful work Stan.

Those would look very nice in my Easter basket. All the pieces laid out on the white towel looks what I would have left over AFTER I put them together. That's why I leave the carburetors to the experts.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tim Wrenn on Tuesday, April 15, 2014 - 09:21 am:

Ditto to that Dennis!! They sure are purrrdy! No T-ing today! Too cold, and 2" of snow! God Bless Ohio!!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jon Allen on Tuesday, April 15, 2014 - 09:38 am:

Hey Stan,
What a show-off! But you have the right to if anyone does.
Beautiful work.
By-the-way, I bought the speedster! So I will probably be needing ANOTHER carburetor...
Jon


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bob Coiro on Tuesday, April 15, 2014 - 10:02 am:

Works of art. Nothing less.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Stan Howe Helena, Montana on Tuesday, April 15, 2014 - 10:45 am:

Thanks, making them look good is the easy part, making them run right is the trick. Dennis, you have to remember that I also take photos of them all together before I take them apart so I can remember when all those little pieces go. The real challenge is figuring out what the piece would look like and how to make it if it is missing. I've built a couple missing main jets and some idle jets based on what it must have looked like and where it has to fit. That's pretty interesting.

As far as a protege, no, I don't have. I do so many things to try to make a living I am often working on carbs late at night or on weekends, I don't have regular shop hours and I don't really have time to teach somebody. I also have a fair shop of tools and there is so little work space left the apprentice would have to be pretty small to fit in there with me. There will be somebody pick up the slack when I tip over. There always has been, there always will be. I see in the ebay ads some people advertising to rebuild carbs, I'm not the first or the last.

Before I shut down my violin shop about 15 years ago I had one last apprentice. She was about 23 and I was about 55. We spent the summer hairing bows, did about 1100 bows and some other work, too. Let me tell you boys, you spent the summer locked in an 8 x 16 foot shop with anybody, but especially a girl that age, you know each other better than you ever wanted to. We got along very well and are still friends but she could probably still tell you what gives me gas and I could tell you a few things about her she probably would have never just outright told me. She's still in the business and doing fine with it, I was sick and tired of it and was so busy with the auction business I didn't have time to do it anyway.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Stan Howe Helena, Montana on Tuesday, April 15, 2014 - 10:59 am:

I've had a couple messages and since the "reply" function apparently doesn't work with AOL and the "keyword search" just says "waiting for MTFCA" and never does anything, here is my email address: stanhowemt@aol.com

I know, I need a different email host than AOL but I have so much stuff with that address it would take me a month to get it all changed over to something that might not work any better.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Les VonNordheim on Tuesday, April 15, 2014 - 11:30 am:

Stan,
You are the "Master" of Carb's. At the Bakersfield swap meet I bought a Stromberg LF Carb. for a friend that is missing the butter fly disk/screws and lower fuel connection part that fits on the bottom. Do you have these pieces...or know where they could be purchased?? just trying to help a very good friend.

Thank you,
Les


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Keith Gumbinger, Kenosha, WI on Tuesday, April 15, 2014 - 01:22 pm:

Les - I sent you a PM.

Keith


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Randy Glowacki on Tuesday, April 15, 2014 - 01:40 pm:

Stan,
That is some beautiful work...I used to work in a shop that built banjos and mandolins, I did the pearl inlay work.

Now a big job for me is sanding and finishing the Fordite steering wheel on my 1927 Roadster.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Stan Howe Helena, Montana on Tuesday, April 15, 2014 - 02:45 pm:

Les, I should have those if you still need them. Randy, inlay is a really exacting job. The only inlay I've ever done was to inlay some Ivory into the neck on my 35S Martin. That's another one of those things that there is more to than meets the eye, isn't it?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Les VonNordheim on Tuesday, April 15, 2014 - 04:04 pm:

Stan,
I have forwarded your reply and e-mail to Frank Grulich who has the Lf carb. Hope it all works out and the carb. performs better than his NH.
Thanks again,
Les


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By george house on Tuesday, April 15, 2014 - 04:25 pm:

Oh, . . . . I don't know . . . . . uncle Stan rebuilt a U&J updraft carb for me and it hasn't positively impacted the performance of my Model T at all !! . . . Now if I'll just take it down from the mantle above the fireplace next to my Monet' and INSTALL it - but it looks so doggone purty!! ;o)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark Gregush Portland Oregon on Tuesday, April 15, 2014 - 07:35 pm:

A bump from the past! :-)
http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/50893/70303.html


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bob Cascisa - Poulsbo, Washington on Wednesday, April 16, 2014 - 01:00 am:

Stan,

That OC-2 looks real special. I can hardly wait.

Be_Zero_Be


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Stan Howe Helena, Montana on Wednesday, April 16, 2014 - 01:05 am:

It's all done except a test run. Was raining and snowing here today. Again tomorrow.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Stan Howe Helena, Montana on Wednesday, April 16, 2014 - 01:10 am:

Hey George!!! You ever listen to that CD????


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Larry Smith on Wednesday, April 16, 2014 - 10:30 am:

Stan: Would you mind sharing where you purchase the bright dip from? Sure would like to have some.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Stan Howe Helena, Montana on Wednesday, April 16, 2014 - 10:59 am:

This is what I have been using lately. It's the best I've found and comes in a powder that you just mix with warm water. I've done about twenty runs of small parts and a couple carb bodies on about 4 heaping plastic teaspoons in my 2 liter ultrasonic and it is still working fine but getting really dirty. It is the first I've used this. Up until now I have been using Lyman's brass case cleaner. IMHO this is far better.

I do beadblast most things before I put them in the sonic but this stuff sure cleans out passages and puts and extra shine on. I also spend some time polishing after the parts dry. On some parts I spend quite a bit of time polishing. I don't know if this makes it easier to polish but it seems like it makes it shinier.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/SONIC-SHEEN-Brass-Shell-Cleaner-Protector-Polish-Additiv e-Ultrasonic-Concentrate-/360761404665?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item53ff0e2cf9

I don't throw the solutions out. I dump them in a clear plastic jar and leave it set for a week or so, most of the nasty stuff will settle out. It doesn't seem to really lose its strength.

It's amazing what comes out of the carb bodies after you think they are clean from bead blasting and/or carb cleaner. I don't use carb cleaner, most of it anymore is so weak all it does is make a mess out of the passages. But I get one in once in awhile that has been soaked in it.

I didn't do the ultrasonic cleaning for a long time, then got started with it and now do all the carbs in it after I bead blast, drill out or remove the passage plugs, etc. I'm now convinced it is the only way to really get the insides clean. It's a mess and takes more time but I think it's worth it. I am amazed at how clean they are internally after a zip through this stuff. Gotta have a good ultrasonic tho, one with heat and some power or you are just soaking it.

I've had a couple that spit out a big gob of gunk from a passage that I would have had to drill to clean but I still run a bit into a lot of passages. I run them through once for 20 minutes, blow the passages, run them through again for 5 or 10, blow the passages, run them through a third time if I think they need it and check the passages.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Stan Howe Helena, Montana on Thursday, April 17, 2014 - 08:26 pm:

Here you go, Bob. I know you've been waiting for this one. This is a Stromberg OC-2. They are great speedster carbs for overheads and really hot engines. Probably overkill for a stock or most flatheads.



Here's another one. This is the wonderful Zenith S4BF. Notice the gas line extension. This was originally supplied with the carb, most are gone. I made this one to extend the gas line for the buyer so it will just bolt on and hook up.



OK, one more. This is a Holley NH Straight Through for a guy in Washington. Zoom Zoom


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Larry Bohlen, Severn MD on Thursday, April 17, 2014 - 08:55 pm:

Stan,

I have a Zenith set up like that for you to do some time soon for a speedster I'm building.
I'll PM you when I'm ready to send it and get instructions from you.
Thanks, beautiful carbs.
Larry


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bob Cascisa - Poulsbo, Washington on Friday, April 18, 2014 - 11:26 am:

Stan,
It's beautiful !!!!

Thank you. So much.

Be_Zero_Be


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Stan Howe Helena, Montana on Saturday, April 19, 2014 - 12:40 am:

Bob, you won't get until the middle of next week. I finally got a break in the rain and wind today to test run it but it was too late to get it in mail. Runs fine. It will go out Monday,should just be a couple days, you're not very far from me.
Zoom Zoom.


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