http://jacksonville.craigslist.org/cto/4368437385.html

Saw this on CL

Rear window, radiator, hood, and tires optional?
Open air top - The motor has little wear so it must be perfect!

Wow what-a- deal at $10,000

Related, earlier thread:

http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/411944/429399.html?1394477317

It is a pretty rare early body style for sure.
If it was restored how much would it be worth? Maybe around 18-20 thousand?

It's more rare than a '15 Coupelet. I'd think that with a nice restoration, it would be worth twice that. But a "nice restoration" would cost megabucks to do it right, especially the interior. You'd have to have the fabrics and trim tape custom-made.

Here's a recent thread with some pics of an unrestored original '15 Sedan for sale at $27K. I'm told it sold; I don't know for what price.

http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/411944/435568.html

Another "1915" center door is listed on the HCCA website at $25K:

http://www.hcca.org/classifieds.php?cars

No idea if it is truly a '15 or not. If so it is quite a coincidence.

Is one or more of the paint layers blue on the lower body of the Jacksonville Centerdoor, or is it just me seeing things in the picture?
I'm thinking about Hap's old "ghost" - it was (is?) blue on the lower part of the body:



I'm still curious about the Ford factory letter sent to the assembly plants dated March 22, 1917:

Ford said, “As we expect to paint all bodies black by April 15th, we ask that you kindly give us an inventory of all the F-113 (blue body paint) you now have on hand, and that you do not requisition any more of this material beyond your needs to April 15th.”

Were all the 15 center door models aluminum?

Royce, et al -- I contacted the seller of the Sedan listed in the HCCA Classifieds as a '15. He gave me the motor number, which is 1,000,xxx, making it a '16 model year car. It probably is titled as a '15, which was commonly done back in the day, hence the mistaken year listing. He said he had sold the car, BTW.

The reason I contacted him was because of the wording, "excellent original green paint..." in the listing. I am trying to document '15 - '18 cars with original blue or green body paint for an article I'm working on, so I was very excited to hear of another example. As our conversation progressed, he mentioned that he had had the car repainted in a very dark green, "like they did originally." Bummer. He's going to email me some info about the car, and I hope there will be some pre-repaint pics which I can use. We'll see.

I love a challenge, but this one keeps turning up one dead end after another. It's the nature of the beast, I guess. There just aren't many 100-year-old cars out there which have their original paint. If anyone reading this knows of any '15 - '18 cars with original-paint colored bodies, please drop me a note. Thanks.

He also told me that the gas tank is under the driver seat, and the body is steel.

Bob -- Are there any protected areas on the body of "Ghost" that indicate the original body color was blue?

I was just looking back at some pics of the '15 Sedan which was for sale in Portland. We know that Ford "flowed" the paint onto bodies when Ford began painting them themselves. Does anyone know what process Fisher used to paint the bodies of the closed car bodies they sold to Ford during the 1915-18 time period? Were they brushed?

Mike, the protected areas showed the car to be black. I lightly removed the blue in some areas and it was black underneath, so I'll be painting it black.

Didn't Mr. Jelf find an aluminum bodied version of one of these a couple years back?

Danial - Not to speak for Steve Jelf, but I just happen to recall that Steve's aluminum bodied car is NOT a centerdoor; it's a Fordor,....and a real "beauty" if I do say so!

Thanks, Bob.