Nice car, but that combination of "go fast" engine and those accessory shocks make me thing of Ken Meeks and his wife and what happened to them!
........too bad it's got one dead cylinder, huh? I guess whoever wrote that description is not too familiar with Model "T" Fords!
Looks like a crack in the block in the second to last photo??
Power brakes too! "Non smoker." The car, or the previous owner?
A two-pedal, three-lever 1911! You don't see a lot of 1911 frames with a battery carrier.
That's a nice Frank N Stine T.
This has been for sale on Craig's List for $25 grand for some time now. Story was it was the sellers father's car and he passed away and the family wants it sold.
Looks like a cool sleeper to me!
OK, as a newbie i have to ask the proverbial question as to why it only has two pedals? I noticed that is indeed not a 3 cylinder as advertised, but a four. And the seller said it has power brakes...Does this just mean the last owner had spectacular calf muscles?
The only thing on that car that is 1911being is the body, and that is probably reproduction. Well, maybe some of the brass, but I didn' t see anything else that looks older than black era. The three speed (with reverse) must have lead to the removal of the reverse pedal and band.
Well,at least it has tapered springs. Maybe one of our experts on early cars can tell us why the coil box has wires inside, and no contacts, and is installed with Phillips sheet rock screws.
The reason the coil box is empty is, 1st its not an original coil box but a home made wooden box with a later 1913+ switch.
The coil box needs nothing inside because there is a magneto where the generator usually goes. I looked at the pictures sometime ago on Craig's list and decided it was a bunch of parts from many different years assembled into a "god knows what it really is" car.
The oil pan looks like it is a heavy cast piece instead of a regular pan, and the wishbone ball cap is on top of a heavy looking bracket instead of on the bottom of a regular T bracket. Could this be a "Himico" or other early replacement 3 speed trans? It is not a normal T crankcase or flywheel housing.
You are right Jeff, I think that is a Himico transmission!
There is also a heavy bracket at the front under the pan nose.
Does anyone have a HIMICO in a T? I would like to hear what they are like in practice. That is the first one I have ever seen pictures of actually in a car.
Any dates on those ads? The second one shows a 1919-1925 engine.
Even thought the car isnt a real 1911, the parts on it a very nice, the wheels, the head, the special oil pan trans setup. That car must fly! Its seems to be a great car! I would love to have it!
If it really is a Himico transmission in the car that makes it about 10x cooler than I thought it was. I really like the Bosch AT-4 in place of the generator.
Does anyone know what the second lever is used for?
I would guess the pedals are clutch and brake. The brake lever appears unchanged and the center lever for gear change, assume that is 3 forward and one reverse. Then what is the lever on the right?
I bet the extra lever is forward an reverse. Most likely the big main lever just goes back and forth between the 3 gears. It may even have a lockout so you can only shift into reverse if the main shifter is in 1st.
Power take off
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Actually, the two old Himco advertisements with photos that Ed posted show two pedals and two levers, and the levers actually look just like the two levers in the red car. The large lever is obviously the gear shift lever, and I'm guessing that the smaller lever is for the emergency brake.
I suspect this is the same car that is on Craigslist for 30K. It looks like a lot of fun, if only the price was more reasonable.
I was thinking it might be reverse also. The first ad says that it is a three speed trans and does not show the extra lever, so maybe on the four speed its standard "H" pattern on the gearshift, and reverse on the other lever, however it also says that it is shown with PTO, so it may be for that. PTO would not be necessary on that car, but how many Himicos have you seen? They probably used the first one they found, PTO or not. The Ford emergency brake lever is still in place.
I looked at an ad for the unit today. It's to shift into granny low. It's gives something like a 30 to 1 reduction in the TT. The info starts on page 333 to 335 in The Model T Ford Owner by Murray Fahnestock
I'd say Mark is right. It looks like the PTO shifter is a plunger type shifter just above the PTO. Dave
So how does one use a Himico transmission? When did they first come out?
My understanding is it's basically like replacing your Ford planetary with a Warford - clutch to shift and match the revs. Far left pedal is clutch, right pedal is transmission brake similar to Ford planetary.
Quick read, 1, 2, 3 and reverse is through the shifter on top, granny is gotten by putting the trans in neutral and shifting the lever on the far side. The clutch is a double plate dry clutch.
Brakes are (I'd have to re read to be sure) a drive line brake like the T and/or rear outside brakes of a combination of both.
old post about transmission:
Himico also made hi-comp heads!