Pain or the age, which comes first?

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tyrone Thomas - Topeka KS on Tuesday, May 13, 2014 - 10:38 pm:

Turned 60 yesterday but have been hurting in two more more places for months before. So in my case, age follows pain. Happy birthday to all my now brothren old farts.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf, Parkerfield KS on Tuesday, May 13, 2014 - 10:51 pm:

Heck, you're a post-war model. Still a kid. :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By David Dewey, N. California on Wednesday, May 14, 2014 - 01:38 am:

Tyrone,
Glad to know I'm not the only one--I thought this would start happening in another 10 years, not this early!!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Fred Dimock, Newfields NH, USA on Wednesday, May 14, 2014 - 04:27 am:

I agree with Steve. You are just a young-un. Pain and age come together. The older you get the more you have and it is only beginning.

Yesterday during discussion with my insurance company I learned that the cost of a nose bleed I had in Feb only cost $100,000
It took two trips to the operating room over 6 days for 4 embolisms to stop the bleeding.
I wonder what it would would have cost if I had a real problem!

I now know why they call it the golden years. Ya need lots of gold when you get old.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By michael grady on Wednesday, May 14, 2014 - 05:39 am:

I'll be 60 in October.

Last night I pulled an all nighter - didn't have to get up once to pee. Great night.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By G.R.Cheshire on Wednesday, May 14, 2014 - 07:25 am:

My father in law used to say you know you are getting old when what works hurts, what doesn't work doesn't hurt. I got my first clue that I might be getting "up there" when my Granddaughter was going through my "black CD's" and saw Abbey Road and said who are these people?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Chris Olsen on Wednesday, May 14, 2014 - 07:30 am:

I'll be 60 in 22 years, but my back has been out for the past ten.
Happy birthday!
As one of the gentlemen said at the local T club meeting last night when asked how he is doing:
"I woke up on the right of the dirt, so OK"


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark Strange on Wednesday, May 14, 2014 - 08:30 am:

I'm only 58, but I've been living with gallstones for the past 5 years. I have an appointment with a specialist tomorrow to talk about what if anything to do about them, does anyone have any personal experience with gallstone surgery or treatments and how they worked out for them? Thanks. :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Brian Mettling on Wednesday, May 14, 2014 - 08:33 am:

pain definitely comes first - I'm 29 years old - been walking with crutches for weeks, unable to sit in a chair for 4 weeks. - two herniated discs in my back...it's agony!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tim Wrenn on Wednesday, May 14, 2014 - 08:39 am:

Mark, I haven't had experience with gallstones, but have had a few folks "around me" go through it...no big deal, they just make a small hole or two, go in and suck out the gallbladder, next day or two max you're home. Maybe two weeks light duty recovering. If you're having trouble with it, get rid of it! And I bet that'll be a $50K surgery nowadays!! Affordable health care my ass! (oh gosh, don't get me going again!)

Tyrone, Mike, I'm with ya there...3 mos. to go 'till 60, just yesterday telling a friend of mine that virtually every joint above my waist hurts. Bad back (herniated disc L4-L5 doesn't help either). Can barely crank the '12 and '15...and this'll open up a whole new thread I'm sure...I actually HAVE to use BOTH hands to crank or can't get 'em to go! Yes, dangerous, but I've developed a technique with both hands to actually pull the handle out as I reach the so-called "ingition spot" where it (should) fire off, before it hopefully gets a chance to kick back.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tim Wrenn on Wednesday, May 14, 2014 - 08:42 am:

Brian, you're faster than me!! Wow, 29 and two herniated discs...man I feel for ya. Know painfully (pun intended) what you're going through. Blew mine out at the ripe old age of '25. Crawling on the floor. Weeks and weeks of physical therapy, actually helped, but now 35 years later, things are starting to go south again. Gotta start up the exercises again, they do help. Good luck man.
P.S...got ur P.M. yesterday, thanks for the info. I use an android smartphone, appears those apps are only for Iphone unless I read the specs wrong.
Tim


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Richard Wolf on Wednesday, May 14, 2014 - 08:44 am:

Tim;
Had my gallbladder removed 9 yrs ago. No big deal.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By john kuehn on Wednesday, May 14, 2014 - 09:10 am:

Guys you cant be superman forever! Just keep moving and keep on keeping on! 66 here and hanging on!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Henry Petrino in Modesto, CA on Wednesday, May 14, 2014 - 09:18 am:

You and I are the same age, John. You're sure right about "keep moving". I have the aches and pains one would expect to accumulate over the years, mostly in my back because at one time I thought nothing could hurt me. I know better now and try to compensate.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By john kuehn on Wednesday, May 14, 2014 - 09:30 am:

You bet Henry. When I younger I use to think that retirement was taking it easy and fishing all day and being lazy. NOT SO! You wont live long doing that!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ricks - Surf City on Wednesday, May 14, 2014 - 10:03 am:

When people ask how I'm doing:

"I've had better."

I'm still walking and talking - with difficulty. VA is taking good care of me.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tyrone Thomas - Topeka KS on Wednesday, May 14, 2014 - 10:27 am:

so I have learned I am not alone in this age and pain thing. After reading Marks thread about getting his gallstone out to rid of this pain, just makes me wonder what new, hidden pains he will discover.
I'm currently dealing with a badly sprained wrist from falling while playing basketball with grandson. And a second knee which needs to be replaced. Talk to the surgen on the 28th. All other pains are marriage related. <--self inflicted by contract. :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Gary H. White - Sheridan, MI on Wednesday, May 14, 2014 - 10:28 am:

More age means more pain. Things keep piling up you. About 7-8 years ago I was only taking 2 meds. Then a couple years back I was getting an injection for back pain and the gas passer said I had an irregular irregular heart beat. That led to meds for Afib which led to a pace maker which led to another med. Afib is a bitch. 3-4 hours of even light work poops me out. Can't leave the house without a couple pain pills in pocket. 76 in Nov.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Norman T. Kling on Wednesday, May 14, 2014 - 10:34 am:

Happy birthday, young fellow. I was already driving when you were born. From my personal experience, I don't have any other pains than I did when I was young except that they are more intense. For example, when I wake up in the morning nowdays I feel like I did the morning after a 15 mile hike when I was younger. Anyway, pain just gets worse, but for me it didn't start with age, just increased.
Norm


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dennis Henrichs on Wednesday, May 14, 2014 - 05:05 pm:

Mother said I was a pain before I was born--and a bigger one afterward. :-) Seriously I'll take my pain from 4 bad disks, poor hearing etc. I'm still better than all the relatives (most younger than me) who are pushing up daisies. As you get older "no pain, no gain" becomes "pain, no gain". Find ways to do the things you like and that matter.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Craig Anderson, central Wisconsin on Wednesday, May 14, 2014 - 06:18 pm:

Chronologically I'm 62.
Attitude wise I hope to stay 17 for a long time yet.
Physically fine except my back has other ideas but if you wanna play you gotta pay.
That's what naproxen sodium is for.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By R.V. Anderson on Wednesday, May 14, 2014 - 06:51 pm:

"Old age is the point at which you realize that no thing is as overrated as sex and as underrated as a successful bowel movement."

That was a saying of my first teacher's aide.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Cary Abate on Wednesday, May 14, 2014 - 06:57 pm:

At 71, I felt unneeded. At 72 Brought my cars to Texas and at 73 Wow what a difference. They need me so much that I bought another. 3 run great. 2 will soon. 1 this fall. But walked by the Corvette and stepped in tranny fluid. Now back to 2 run great.

All and all I don't care, I gotta stay until all run great. That's my plan anyway.

Retirement is now great.
Cary


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Henry Petrino in Modesto, CA on Wednesday, May 14, 2014 - 07:41 pm:

As they say, I'm doing less and less for the first time, more and more for the last time. :-)

When George Burns was in his middle 90's, while doing a stand-up routine he took a puff of his large cigar. He looked at it, and took another puff. Then he said, "My doctors told me I should give these up. They're all dead."


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf, Parkerfield KS on Wednesday, May 14, 2014 - 08:41 pm:

Reading all these comments only reminds me how very lucky I am. At almost 73 my aches and pains are few and minor, and my time for three miles this morning was 31:30. I guess I'm fortunate genetically and otherwise. My dad had bad knees from playing high school football, but I was too fat and unathletic for sports. Lucky again. :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Chester W. Lowery TN on Wednesday, May 14, 2014 - 09:36 pm:

Steve, I'm with you on the sports. Nothing against them but I just wasn't very good at them so I stuck with music and cars. Physically I guess I shouldn't complain just poor ankles and week back at times. Not enough to keep me from working on the T just a little slower getting up off the floor. It seems as long as I am in the garage or playing music I forget about all the pains unless Pat has something she thinks I should be doing and then I hurt all over......


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By brass car guy on Wednesday, May 14, 2014 - 09:56 pm:

I am walking 2 nights a week, 1 plus mile each at a brisk pace. I have noticed a couple of things, my hammies are still a bit too tight and my feet need a better shoe for support. I purchased a pair of Snap On work boots. These are designed for guys on their feet all day on hard surfaces. They have made a huge difference both for my arches and my ankles. I'm now wearing them every day.

I am hoping to add another mile each night in the next couple of weeks. They say an active body is a good body. I'm not sure but, I'm willing to try.

My biggest issue is the stiffness from inactivity so I'm trying to work my way through. Time will tell.

What finally got my attention was getting in and put of my low slung sports cars. The t's are easy, the Ferrari's and Cobra were the issue, looked like I needed a crane to be lifted in and out. Hard to look cool at my age crawling in and out of low slung cars, it's embarrassing the really cool cars and the old fool trying to look good.

just sayin'

brasscarguy


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bud Holzschuh - Panama City, FL on Wednesday, May 14, 2014 - 10:15 pm:

From someone who's been there +10 years.

1. Keep a sense of humor about growing older -lots of jokes about it - that's for a reason!

2. Plan on living at least to 100.

3. New projects every day - that's important!

4. Hang with the family as much as you can.

5. Don't be a luddite - accept new technology.

6. Everyone's different, but if you have non specific arthritus pains, ginger root works for me - google it.

7. Most important of all, remember that "old" is always 10 years older than you are! Works for any age.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Robert E. (Bob) Blackbourn, Gautier Ms. on Thursday, May 15, 2014 - 11:33 am:

I'm 75 and I still feel like a teenager.

That is until I try to do something.

Like get out of bed.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Seth from NC on Thursday, May 15, 2014 - 01:22 pm:

My dad is a 52 year old Colonel in the Marines Corps - he's had his hip replaced already but just today scored a 237 on his PFT. For perspective a first class PFT for any Marines under age 25 is a score of 225 or higher. He did 18 pull ups, 100 situps (in either 1 minute or 2, I can't ever remember which) and ran 3 miles in about 26 minutes. He's feeling and talking pretty spritely today. I just found out I got an A for my Calculus 2 class. Pretty epic day overall.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By michael grady on Thursday, May 15, 2014 - 01:37 pm:

Mark...


From a surgeon...get them out while you are healthy, and it's not and emergency. Sooner or latter it will be..that's no fun.

HTH,

Michael


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf, Parkerfield KS on Thursday, May 15, 2014 - 02:25 pm:

A little more on the Marine fitness test: The time for sit-ups (crunches) is two minutes. A passing score for ages 17-26 is 50. For ages 46+, it's 40. That 100 is pretty impressive. The minimum passing time for the three mile run is 28 minutes for ages 17-26. For ages 46+, it's 33. Again, the 26 minute run is impressive. But the one that blows me away is 18 pull-ups. The minimum score for all ages is 3. I'll be delighted if I ever get back in the kind of shape to do three pull-ups. Seth's dad us giving us ancient wrecks something to aim for.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf, Parkerfield KS on Thursday, May 15, 2014 - 02:30 pm:

is, not us. I sure wish we could edit. :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mack Cole ---- Earth on Thursday, May 15, 2014 - 04:16 pm:

Well pain comes long before age.I am 47 and dont feel a day over 74.
I thought I was fixen to have the big 1 2 weeks ago today.
I have had heart palpatations for years since my accident and didnt think much of it till that morning.I never did get to feeling better and got light headed and my arm hurt and felt like Bubba was sitting on my chest along with heart burn.

So I wound up in the doctors office. His ekg said I had had a heart attack and could have another any minute.Put 3 nitro's in me and wanted me to ride in a ambulance. I said no. Drove my self back home and had my dad drive me to the er.
They checked and all seemed well but they put me in a room and put a nitro patch on me and a monitor.
That night they checked my neck veins. Then friday put me thru a stres test.
I could not do the treadmill because of my balance issues. So I got the stuff in the arm.
150 beats a minute. I thought my heart was going to bounce out the room.
All my veins are clear. But the ole ticker did palpate and had some odd beats,something about the bottom part hitting just before it is supposed to or something.
Oh well got some Prilosec and got sent out the door.

Going to get a mri and see if anything neurological is causing it.My blood pressure is up and down like a seesaw.
The stress of dealing with my social security case is not helping any for sure.
The stress of the up comeing bills from this visit wont help either.
I do think stress is a sizeable portion of the problem.
They make this mess dealing with federal court cases difficult on purpose so people like me aint gona want to mess with it.

But life goes on.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John F. Regan on Thursday, May 15, 2014 - 11:00 pm:

Well I guess I have to chime in. I am 70 now but most things are still working. Got some pain but I ignore it. I figured out the secret of good health is to pick your parents very carefully.

Never met my dad so don't know how long he would have lived if he had come home from WW2 but my mom lived to 90. She was unique - she had eyes in the back of her head - all 7 of us got caught at everything we did. The joy of my life is being on all 4's and chasing my grandson Luke around. He is not yet 2 and has a "fort" built in his playroom that is made from a blanket over an end table and the corner of the couch. He hides there and I crawl in and tickle him. I love to hear him giggle.

My sons invited me to play paint ball with them a couple years ago since it was my youngest son's bachelor party thing. It was a hoot. Paint kinda stings if you get hit but I did manage to hit 3 guys in the first game - unfortunately 2 of them were on our side. I had pink hair from the paint balls that hit me in the head and I was not really that sore and I had the time of my life. It was an all day affair but I went 3 more times with them and got pretty good at it. I want to go again. I know my boys are probably worried but I sure don't want to "go" while in bed anyway. I wasted the first 26 years of my life but haven't wasted a moment since then. My son's buddies think I am nuts but I already knew that.

Hang in there. We are all on the top side of the grass and that is all that matters. Life is good.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mike Garrison_Rice Minnesota on Thursday, May 15, 2014 - 11:29 pm:

You guys are all depressing the heck out of me. Even with all the health issues I've gone through in the last 30 years I can still walk, sleep 4 hours at a time, drink a full can of beer, but only one, pee standing up unless it's a bad day and my back won't let me stand in one place without tipping over, feed myself soft food, hear the tv with the volume at 37 without my hearing aids, control my blood pressure with meds, still have good cholesterol and short of a couple benign tumors, unknitted broken bones a gall bladder full of something referred to as sludge, a couple ingrown toenails, store bought teeth, receding ok, strike receding it's now gone and failing eyesight I'm in pretty good shape for a man that's 136 years old.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mack Cole ---- Earth on Friday, May 16, 2014 - 04:39 pm:

Strange how I feel so old now and I just got off the phone with my dad. He will be 80 in june. He ask if I would be able to help him get his new-used 79 harley police bike home in the morning. Uh yea, I will be glad to help.
80 and he still kick starts his 58 duoglide.
Some people age different than others and some are just lucky.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dale Kemmerer on Friday, May 16, 2014 - 07:24 pm:

I turned 73 last sunday and am in better health than my eight siblings, three of which are younger than I am. I still swim a mile and a half in 75 minutes five mornings a week. Keeps the pain away. I take no medication and my blood pressure is ok colesterol is good lost 40 pounds from exercise. I plan to be around a long while yet, have too to get all my projects done.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John E Cox on Friday, May 16, 2014 - 09:55 pm:

I discovered as I got older that my body doesn't put up with irritants like it did when I was a young guy.
I am 75 and when still farming in Missouri I was having trouble with my left hip. Being a technical guy most of my life I decided that it was from the shock of getting off of my tractor and would probably require a transplant in a few years. Wrong! I moved my wallet from my left rear pocket, where it had lived for over 60 years, to the left front pocket and the problem went away.
Here in Tucson I was having a major ankle problem, left side again and Mary talked me into a better grade of tennis shoes with inserts and the problem was again solved. I am hoping to live another 15+ years but you never know. My father, a heavy smoker died at 68 with lung cancer. His father died at 85 but was married to a witch so he may have lived longer. The witch died at 95. One of my cousins when very young was quoted as saying " If grandma is going to heaven I don't think that I want to go. I rest my case.
My mother lived to be 90 so I may have a good chance.
I feel great now but like I tell people I am on my Bonus, Bonus years.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rick J. Gunter on Saturday, May 17, 2014 - 12:37 am:

I remember being young and inexperienced for many years, looking forward to the time when I would be looked upon as mature and experienced. Then one day someone called me an old fart. I realized at that moment, that I had gone directly from being a Young Whippersnapper to Old Fart and there was never an in-between.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf, Parkerfield KS on Saturday, May 17, 2014 - 12:58 am:

About forty years ago I went into Tower Records on Sunset Boulevard and asked if they had a copy of A Christmas Carol with Lionel Barrymore. The sweet young thing behind the counter asked, "What kind of music does he play?" It was at that moment I realized I was obsolete.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Andre Valkenaers on Saturday, May 17, 2014 - 12:59 am:

I am 58 now. Since 1988 I live with a broken back and had three spine surgery's ( 1990; 2006 and 2010). Every day I live with pain but I have learned to ignore it and make the best of every day.
I just keep busy. What's important to me is I am still on the top side of the grass and every day is an other day just make the best out of it.
This morning I get up as every morning, I was thinking it will be a fine day today and it is the first day of the rest of my live.

Just take care and enjoy.

Andre
Belgium


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hal Schedler, Sacramento on Saturday, May 17, 2014 - 01:28 am:

I'm 9 years younger than my 23 runabout (as stated in my profile) and have a sore mouth...They'er capping all of my teeth (at a thousand bucks a tooth) I hope I'll be able to chew (eat) again some day.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hal Schedler, Sacramento on Saturday, May 17, 2014 - 01:41 am:

Mark...way up there. My wife has 8 herniated discs but is fully active. She went to "The Laser Spine Institute" and they helped a bunch. Google them. 'Tis expensive but your insurance may cover it. It costs nothing to talk to them and they are good people.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hal Schedler, Sacramento on Saturday, May 17, 2014 - 01:46 am:

That last post is for Brian Mettling Way up there. Sorry


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hal Schedler, Sacramento on Saturday, May 17, 2014 - 02:00 am:

Here's a picture of me (82) and my grandson 16) from last October:


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John P Noonan on Saturday, May 17, 2014 - 02:12 am:

I used to always try to live up to the old adage that "you're as young as you act" till the time comes when you realize you cant use that for an excuse to try to stay healthy, or anything else that life might bring your way. My wife was just diagnosed with breast cancer, and we are fighting to make sure we have many more happy years together.Life is a gift, and she loves our new T and wants to make lots of new memories in something new we both can enjoy and look forward to.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mike Garrison_Rice Minnesota on Saturday, May 17, 2014 - 08:02 am:

Andre, we've had similar experiences. I had back surgeries in 1990, 1994 and in 2008. I've been dealing with degenerative disk disease for years. Then in 2008 after my Surgery in January I slipped on the ice and broke my leg. They stuck a cast on it without setting the bone. Now the ankle is always sore and swollen. Then in September 2008 I fell backward 15 feet. I broke L2, L3, L4 and L5. L5 actually had two breaks. So in December 2008 I had 2 more back surgeries. Because of these issues plus a couple others I ended up retiring early. Now my back feels strong until I start to work it a little too hard. Mornings are always the worst for pain.


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