OT. But sorta T are not unique

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By George_Cherry Hill NJ on Monday, May 19, 2014 - 09:19 am:

Always on the lookout for this on a T. Was surprised when this happened while driving.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By G.R.Cheshire on Monday, May 19, 2014 - 09:38 am:

Great for increasing width of vehicle to reduce rollovers, Horrible for traction! :-) had this happen on a Pontiac Cheiftian once


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Danial - Veneta OR US Earth Solar System on Monday, May 19, 2014 - 09:40 am:

Yikes! What a mess that could have turned into.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bill in Adelaida Calif on Monday, May 19, 2014 - 09:46 am:

I thought military jeeps had a full floating rear end? At least the axle didn't break.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Seth from NC on Monday, May 19, 2014 - 10:08 am:

It's floating alright, that rear end is floating right out from under the Jeep . . .

Just tell folks that you found Hound! The Autobot Transformer. (When not a robot he's a military jeep) The older folks and really young folks might not appreciate it, but anybody about 27 to 40 should know all about Transformers. =)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Donnie Brown on Monday, May 19, 2014 - 10:09 am:

Had that happen on my parents AMC Matador while Mom was driving. The axle came all the way out. While we were skidding to a stop, the axle and tire combo somehow climbed up the back of car, over the roof, down the hood, with the axle putting a big dent in the hood. We were on the big hill on hwy 65 coming into Clinton Arkansas. The tire continued rolling down the highway and crossed the highway, It was starting to bounce pretty good at times with the axle swinging wildly, It went into a yard of a house, where there was a big fiberglass satellite dish. When the tire and axle went thru the satellite dish, there was no more satellite dish. It blew it into a thousand pieces. Quite a site to behold .!!! It was one of those moments you never forget . !! Dad took the axle off the tire, we went into town to the parts house, they pressed the old bearing parts off. Dad took a hammer and straightened the bearing retainer back straight. They pressed the new bearing and retainer back on. We walked back to the car and dad put it back together. We drove that car for years with no more problems. But Mom did make Dad check the other side to make sure it was OK ........


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Seth from NC on Monday, May 19, 2014 - 10:13 am:

LOL holy smokes Donnie! I can only imagine the cringe factor of watching that thing tumbling along and hoping it didn't hurt anybody.

Did ya'll replace the satellite dish?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Will Copeland - Trenton, New Jersey on Monday, May 19, 2014 - 10:22 am:

Thats almost impossible to happen in a military jeep unless the axle broke and all the years working on military jeeps while I was in the army I never saw a broken axle. I would wager that someone failed to install the axle clips when the rear end was being worked on. I would like to know more about what happened there.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave DeYoung ......... Stoughton, WI on Monday, May 19, 2014 - 12:48 pm:

Looks to me like the outer bearing failed or the tab that holds the outer nut was not folded over and it worked itself off the spindle. Either way, not a good day.

Will, that's a full-floating axle, so there is no inner clip. The flange at the hub keeps it in place. Only the Willys MB and very early CJ-2A's ran this design. All other Jeeps ran a semi-floating design.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By A. Gustaf Bryngelson on Monday, May 19, 2014 - 07:07 pm:

The Ford GPW also used the full floating hub, it was interchangeable with the Willys MB. The WWII vintage jeeps use one cone and one cup, both inner and outer are the same and front and back use the same. Looking at teh photo, I would say the outer bearing failed, it looks like the race and nuts are still there, in a pinch, you could push the wheel and axle back into position and wire a board across the fender to hold it there and limp home. Or the wheel and axle could be removed and a short wooden post chained to the spring as as skid and driven home on the front axle. It takes a lot to stop a jeep, especially if it is a Ford.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By George_Cherry Hill NJ on Monday, May 19, 2014 - 08:44 pm:

The 'sample example' is my sons MB. Last overhaul was 75 by his late grandfather...one of the original 4 founders of MVPA. I'll find what happened and post


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Aaron Griffey, Hayward Ca. on Tuesday, May 20, 2014 - 01:18 am:

I was a light truck mechanic for more than 3 years in the Army. 1/4 ton (Jeeps) to 5 ton.
We only had about 5 Jeeps in out company but we had some wise guys that would reach in when nobody was looking and put them in 4-wheel drive.
While driving on hard surfaced road that would cause the Jeep to break an axle, usually the rear axle.
I remember several times drivers would come in and ell us they had to drive in 4-wheel drive because the thing wouldn't move when the took it out of 4-wheel.
But I never saw and axle come out like that on a Jeep..


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By A. Gustaf Bryngelson on Tuesday, May 20, 2014 - 04:31 pm:

Hey Aaron, I have broken 3 rear axles in my life (all three in the same jeep with in a month) I normally drive in 4 wheel drive all the time, mainly because I am too lazy to shift out. In my experience, I only broke real axles when in 2 wheel drive and on gravel. I suspect the broken axles your company had was due to abusive driving habits rather than being in 4 wheel drive. My three broken axles are still a puzzle to me, over the past 40 years, I have driven nearly 100 thousand miles 80% of the time in 4 wheel drive, and 20% of that time in low. These are nearly indestructible vehicles, and about the only design flaw was the oak reinforcement in the floors, as it caused corrosion damage that would not have happened if the reinforcement had been omitted.


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