80 year old tire still holding Air

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Elliott on Sunday, May 25, 2014 - 09:44 pm:

I pulled out my swap meet stuff. And have a Montgomery Wards Tire Made in the USA , 30 X 3.50 oversize , ? Solid rim wood fellows , ? besides some weather aging , Tire looks pretty good . Filled two days ago up to 60 psi and Holding


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mack Cole ---- Earth on Sunday, May 25, 2014 - 10:11 pm:

Probably has a red inner tube in it . Those things are strong and long lasting. I have 1 in a rear wheel of my TT.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Allan Richard Bennett on Monday, May 26, 2014 - 04:46 am:

I found another red rubber tube last week, in a Goodyear Pathfinder tyre which was so hard it would break if I dropped it. I aired it up to about 25 pounds and it made all sorts of crackling sounds, but held air. So I cut the old tyre off carefully and found a virgin tube, never been penetrated or patched. That will make 3 I have in service when it is mounted. I love them.

Allan from down under.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Wayne Sheldon, Grass Valley, CA on Monday, May 26, 2014 - 04:40 pm:

The old red rubber inner tubes are the best and should be preserved so that they can be seen and believed many years later. If left to exposure to the air (sunlight is even worse) or allowed to go flat and crease, they can deteriorate REALLY quickly. The best way I have for preserving them is mounted inside a tire. So mount and use! Fifty years from now, someone may find a surprise!
Drive carefully, and enjoy, W2


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By john kuehn on Monday, May 26, 2014 - 08:38 pm:

Hope you never have to remove that tire to fix or replace it. It wont be easy!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By george house on Wednesday, May 28, 2014 - 08:20 am:

Steve,
Mount it and drive your T with it. I guarantee you'll be able to "lay rubber" . . . in 4 and 6 inch strips and chunks. I did this with a 70 odd year old Sears Allstate with 32 psi on my '27 coupe ;o)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Aaron Griffey, Hayward Ca. on Wednesday, May 28, 2014 - 12:00 pm:

Red tubes were natural rubber.
Black tubes are synthetic.

rubber tubes will not take the heat of driving over the speed limit in a modern car for very long.
Black tubes can take the heat but they develop pin holes in them at temps colder than -35F.

When I worked in St. Paul the garage I was at would repair maybe 3 to 5 tires a week.
On days when the temp dropped to -30 or colder we would have to patch maybe 20 tires a day.
A lot of folks bought Wards tires that were not tubeless yet, and they only sold black tubes.
Where I worked we would not sell a black tube, never.
Next to drop-center rims the tubeless tire is the best advancement in tires and wheels.
Tubeless tires don't develop pin holes in cold weather and they are not known for blowing out because of heat on an 80 degree day while driving 75+. The best of both worlds.


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