So i have 2 RHD steering brackets and one of them has no numbers left because they rusted away so i will try to provide a photograph. Prior thread searches reveal only LHD of different design. i believe 1926 has a slightly different angle of upward rake but this in not readily apparent when viewing these by hand so i will rely upon the grease cups and hole spacing as clues.
When it comes to rhd stuff, I am not an expert and probably should not be trusted. However, based upon similarities to USA brackets, and an eyeball guess at the angle. I would say the one with the grease cup at a 90 degree angle to the shaft bushings would be the earlier of the two. The other one (with the grease cup angled back) looks more like the USA '26/'27 "improved" car version. There is also a TT ton truck rhd variation. It would be pure speculation for me to say that I think (totally by eyeball and little size reference) that I think both of those are car variations. Whether they are correct for a 1920 or not, I do not know. I do know that there is a pre-generator and a generator version also. I have read that the generator version is narrower (?) or somehow tighter against the frame rail. I believe that it requires a slightly longer drag-link for the steering also.
Soon, one of our many good Southern hemisphere friends should chime in and tell me that I am all wrong.
Good luck Kep! I know you have to deal with a lot more difficult parts problems than we do up here.
Drive carefully, and enjoy, W2
Kep, the angled grease cup is typical of the later 26-7 cars in Australia. If you clamp those two brackets to a piece of steel, you may see a different angle for the steering column shaft. The one at the greater angle would be for an earlier car.
If you can match it to the chassis, I think the holes on the later brackets with the angled grease cup will not line up with the holes on earlier chassis.
Hope this helps.
Allan from down under.
Cheers. Both clamp the column closer to the rail than the ones i saw on the internet indicating it was likely to clear the generator. The 90 degree angles cup does appear to hold the steering wheel a little higher than i would expect for '26-27
If you can post the number you found on the one part along with which one of the parts it was -- that may help us in the future. That number will normally be the factory number for the casting without any bushing(s). Note the 1926-27 Fordor for the USA used a unique bracket that was not the same as the earlier 1925 nor the normal 1926-27 bracket used on all the other cars [Tudor, runabout, touring, coupe].
I don't know if you intend working on a 1920 and are looking for the correct bracket but the bracket did not appear until 1921, before that the steering bracket used was the early one and the generator was placed on the left hand side of the motor.
Peter, Left hand side of the motor for the Generator??
Yes, belt driven generator mounted on the left side of the Canadian engines (not USA and not UK).
From a 1920's Canadian owner’s manual:
Please see the posting at:
http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/118802/150437.html?1278900795 for additional photos, part numbers, and details.
Hap l9l5 cut off
Thanks Hap, live and learn!! wish they were still mounted that way, not much fun trying to get a genny out with the manifolds on and steering in the way.!!
I have 4 different RHD steering brackets, I think they are 09-21, 21-25, TT and 26/27.
Far left I believe is 09-21. It mounts the steering column much further away from the frame than the other 3. The hole spacing is 2-1/4 inch. Steering angle is ~42 degrees. Couldn't find a part number on this one.
Second from left is 21-25. Hole spacing is also 2-1/4 inch and angle ~42 degrees. Part number is 1824C
Third is different to the rest, I'm guessing it's for a TT. Hole spacing is 2-3/4 inch, steering angle is ~42 degrees and it mounts the column the same distance from the frame as 21-25. It has the Ford script and part number 1824.
The fourth is 26/27. Hole spacing is 2-1/2 inch and the steering angle is ~38 degrees. Part number is 1824D.
Dave, you have pretty well nailed it with the different types. However there were minor differences with the 09-21 types. Some I know of are: The really early ones had no grease cup. The part number on the early ones was cast into the body along the underside of the steering shaft hole. Later the number was made smaller and cast into the hollow between the shaft hole and the vertical mounting face. These are details the purists may be concerned with. There are probably others. I have no idea of the change points.
Allan from down under.