Model T Timer

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Andre Valkenaers on Monday, May 26, 2014 - 10:45 am:

As the 1922 is walking to its end I was cleaning out the trash that came with the pile of parts.

In the trash was a small box, after cleaning I found this.

I wonder where are the card-bord strips for, that were in the box?

Andre
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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ron Patterson-Nicholasville, Kentucky on Monday, May 26, 2014 - 11:18 am:

Andre

application/pdf
Timer with 5033B wire retainer-PDF.pdf (44.1 k)

T-5033B Timer wire retainer.
Used to help with fraying wires around moving timer case.
Ron the Coilman


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark Gregush Portland Oregon on Monday, May 26, 2014 - 11:19 am:

http://www.modeltford.com/item/5033B.aspx


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Andre Valkenaers on Monday, May 26, 2014 - 11:24 am:

Thanks Ron.

Interesting, Can they be made out of gasket paper?

Andre
Belgium


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ron Patterson-Nicholasville, Kentucky on Monday, May 26, 2014 - 04:36 pm:

Andre
Here are two additional photos of Factory number T-2124A "Commutator Wire terminal Retainer". "All Chassis 1921-1926" and "Fordson 1926".


This part was adopted October 17, 1921 and it appears, from the Record of Change card, to have never been modified from the original design. The material is specified as "Fibre 3/64 Thick".
You will find this part in the Wiring sections of Ford parts books with a Service number 5033B.
Ron the Coilman


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ron Patterson-Nicholasville, Kentucky on Monday, May 26, 2014 - 04:36 pm:

Here is the second photo.

Ron the Coilman


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ron Patterson-Nicholasville, Kentucky on Monday, May 26, 2014 - 04:43 pm:

The purpose of this item is to form the timer wires in such a way that the wire is not constantly bending at the wire end terminal and breaking and to avoid fraying of the wire on the timer pull rod and timer case shorting to ground.
If a short to ground in these wires occurs a coil will fire constantly and result in this common occurrence many of you have seen.

Ron the Coilman


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark Strange on Monday, May 26, 2014 - 04:56 pm:

Here's a picture I found of how the blue wire is routed through the upper retainer:

retainer


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Andre Valkenaers on Monday, May 26, 2014 - 04:58 pm:

Thanks Ron,
I thought the strips were only for this Toledo timer.

How about these timers, were they used often or is it just an other timer?

Andre
Belgium


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Andre Valkenaers on Monday, May 26, 2014 - 05:05 pm:

In my first post it should be:
As the 1922 REBUILD is walking to its end.

Andre
Belgium


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Wayne Sheldon, Grass Valley, CA on Monday, May 26, 2014 - 07:36 pm:

I never knew who built them, but I have two complete and one incomplete of those timers. I have seen only a few others, so do not think they are very common. They are among the great many after-market timer ideas offered during the model T's heyday.
They look to be very well built in the area where the roller runs around. And being able to pop the front cover off with the timer left on the engine should make it easier to check and/or service. However, it you want to run oil in the timer (as you should) it looks to me like it would leak out badly. The front cover does fit very well, a light grease may work well and not leak much.

At least now I know who made them. Thank you Andre V!
Drive carefully, and enjoy, W2


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Royce in Georgetown TX on Monday, May 26, 2014 - 07:57 pm:

You should follow the directions from the timer - use cup grease in summer and Vaseline in winter. The same applies to any roller timer, they work perfectly and for a long time without maintenance if greased.


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