Starting screws in a difficult place

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2014: Starting screws in a difficult place
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf, Parkerfield KS on Monday, May 26, 2014 - 11:39 am:

I've seen forum comments about the exasperating challenge of installing Bendix cover screws, especially that first one beside the hogshead.


A piece of wire wrapped around the screw to make a holder alleviates the agony.


It doesn't exactly make the job a cakewalk into town, but it helps considerably. It's also helpful to have screwdrivers of several different lengths and sizes.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jim Thode Chehalis Washington on Monday, May 26, 2014 - 11:58 am:

I use one of there screw holding screw drivers when I get in a tight spot:



The ones I have are Craftsmen but don't if they still sell them.

Jim


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Noel D. Chicoine, MD, Pierre, SD on Monday, May 26, 2014 - 11:59 am:

So Steve, do you leave the wire hanging down after the bendix cover is on or pull the wire off before you tighten it? I might consider an allen head metric screw for that area as it will be easier to keep on the driver and I believe the threads are close enough to work. I've got to pull my starter and put a seal in it to stop an aggravating oil leak there. Maybe today if the hospital leaves me alone! I love your posts, Steve.
Noel


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf, Parkerfield KS on Monday, May 26, 2014 - 12:33 pm:

Yep, just pull the wire out and then tighten. The Allen screws might work, but I try to stay mostly stock.

The problem I've always had with grabby screwdrivers is that the claws get bent and don't grab. I once tried bending one back in shape, and only succeeded in breaking it. I can make a lot of wire screw holders for the price of a new screwdriver.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Richard Wolf on Monday, May 26, 2014 - 12:51 pm:

What about a magnetised(sp) screw driver


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jim Sims on Monday, May 26, 2014 - 01:02 pm:

Steve,you are about two hours late for me. But believe it or not, I did the same thing this morning.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bob Coiro on Monday, May 26, 2014 - 01:35 pm:

I use an electricians' screwdriver. Excellent for delicate work in tight places.



Move the slide on the handle for tightening the grip on the screw's head or positive release.

They're easy to find at places like Harbor Freight, hardware stores, etc.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By G.R.Cheshire on Monday, May 26, 2014 - 02:39 pm:

Noel; Someone put allen head on mine and the head is considerably smaller than the straight slot screw so they put washers under them and then the allen head screws backed out...oil everywhere not fun I put the original screws back in (with loctite)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Zibell on Monday, May 26, 2014 - 02:54 pm:

I've been using one of these little devils http://www.sears.com/craftsman-5-8-in-screw-starter/p-00941024000P?prdNo=1&block No=1&blockType=G1 for over 40 years. Great for starting screws where you don't have good access. Just finish up with a screwdriver of your choice.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By john kuehn on Monday, May 26, 2014 - 03:19 pm:

Bob C's electricians screw driver is the way to go
for hard to reach screws.

When using one I also get a small dab of thick grease to put on it and the press the handle down to grip the screw.

The grease is an extra help. And it does work.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tim Eyssen - Abilene TX on Monday, May 26, 2014 - 05:24 pm:

Run the blade across a magnet to help hold the screw.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By William L Vanderburg on Monday, May 26, 2014 - 05:33 pm:

The screw next to the hogs head: I don't remove it. I back it out enough that the bendix cover will slip out from under it with the other three removed.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark Strange on Monday, May 26, 2014 - 05:39 pm:

Steve, it's looking like the touring is weeks if not days from being back on the road, congratulations!

Glad the band replacement finally worked out. :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mike Zahorik on Monday, May 26, 2014 - 07:51 pm:

I just tape the screw to the screwdriver head with some masking tape. I will hold for as long as you need and then pulls right off. Works for me.
Mike


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf, Parkerfield KS on Monday, May 26, 2014 - 09:58 pm:

Mister Thrifty loves the masking tape idea! :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Paul Mikeska, Denver CO on Tuesday, May 27, 2014 - 12:17 am:

Masking tape, or electrical tape works great if you don't have the expensive starting screwdrivers or are on the side of the road.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Allan Richard Bennett on Tuesday, May 27, 2014 - 02:24 am:

Steve, I do a variation on the wire theme to hold the nut next to the hogshead on the starter side when installing the side pan mounting bolt. Holding a nut requires a bit more ingenuity.

Cheers,

Allan from down under.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By David Stroud on Tuesday, May 27, 2014 - 03:13 am:

I use the screwdrivers like the ones that Jim T. posted, and haven't had any problem with them at all. Steve, if you are bending the "claws", you ain't doing something right!<g> By the way, I bought my screwdriver at a fleamarket for a dollar. Dave


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Peter B. Ratledge on Tuesday, May 27, 2014 - 08:09 am:

I do what Tim does.I have a magnet from a large radio speaker.Just rub the screwdriver across a few to magnetize it. It works well


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Larry Smith on Tuesday, May 27, 2014 - 11:07 am:

William Vanderburg hit it on the head, then use the electricians screw driver above for the rest, and then a regular long reach screwdriver for the rest.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf, Parkerfield KS on Tuesday, May 27, 2014 - 11:14 am:

Yes, the Ford book says leave it in too. That's why there's a slot in the cover. But as long as I was painting the cover I figured I might as well also do the screws.

http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/411944/447693.html?1401065339


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