Need Advice on Brake Shoes

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2014: Need Advice on Brake Shoes
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Marty Bufalini on Wednesday, May 28, 2014 - 09:50 am:

I had to rebuild my rear end -- well, not mine, the one on my 1914 touring -- and figured while I'm at it I'd replace the brake shoes with the padded cast iron shoes. My question is: do you guys leave them as one piece or do you cut them at the bolt hole where it attaches to the backing plate? Thanks.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark Gregush Portland Oregon on Wednesday, May 28, 2014 - 11:12 am:

Leave in one piece. My take is there was a groove cast in the shoe at the bolt hole so that if they did break it would be a long that line. Someone in the past started splitting the shoe so they did not have to take out the mounting bolt. The second spring is there in case the shoe does snap apart. I have not seen anything in the service book about splitting the shoe. I have done it both ways, works fine.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark Strange on Wednesday, May 28, 2014 - 11:39 am:

There have been previous discussions on the subject, comments at that time were split (pun intended) about whether to split them or leave them be. When I replaced mine last year, I took my Dremel tool and cut a slice about halfway through the cast iron at the bolt hole so that if they do split later from use, they do so cleanly at the location of my choosing.

Just my way of compromising based on all the comments available at the time. :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jerry VanOoteghem on Wednesday, May 28, 2014 - 11:54 am:

Of those who left them uncut, did you ever have one break where not intended?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Seth from NC on Wednesday, May 28, 2014 - 01:38 pm:

I left mine as one piece and they haven't cracked or split or anything. I drive my speedster a pretty good bit.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Marty Bufalini on Thursday, May 29, 2014 - 03:55 pm:

Any response to Jerry Van's question?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Allan Richard Bennett on Friday, May 30, 2014 - 10:44 am:

Marty, I have seen a number of original left in one piece shoes broken in odd places other than at the pivot bolt. I always cut mine in two halves to avoid this.

Others will differ.

Allan from down under.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jon Allen on Friday, May 30, 2014 - 11:08 am:

I cut mine. It just seems to make more sense. For what it is worth, Dave at Chaffin's told me that some early Ford service manual said to cut them.
When you put things back together, rotate the wheel and listen for scraping noises. I had to bend, cut & grind to keep things from hitting one another inside the drum. The new brakes are noted for not fitting in there very well.
Jon


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Aldrich Orting Wa on Friday, May 30, 2014 - 11:14 am:

I "scored" mine so they would break at the score if they were going to brake at all.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Marty Bufalini on Friday, May 30, 2014 - 05:30 pm:

Thanks, everyone! I didn't cut or score mine. It sounds like I'll have to take the rear wheels off and do that.


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