Timer gauge and inner oil seals

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2014: Timer gauge and inner oil seals
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Chris Olsen on Saturday, May 31, 2014 - 12:42 am:

How do I use the little timer gauge I just bought? I understand it attached to the timer spring bolt, but what then?
Also, I am having a hard time understanding the Axle book, as it talks about things without actually telling you what they are... Anyway, where to the big thick felt washers go, and where to the inner oil seals sit. Plus which way do they face? I bought the new ones, not the leather.
cheers,
chriso


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Chris Olsen on Saturday, May 31, 2014 - 12:47 am:

After searching again, I found the timer gauge instructions...I swear I used the same search terms the first four times...


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dan Hatch on Saturday, May 31, 2014 - 05:42 am:

Do you have the Ford Service book? Dan.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hal Davis-SE Georgia on Saturday, May 31, 2014 - 05:54 am:

The timer gauge is only good for the original Ford roller timer. If you have any other type, it may give you a wrong adjustment which could break your arm or damage an electric starter. It's best to set it by piston position. With the spark lever up, adjust it to where it fires just after top dead center.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Larry Smith on Saturday, May 31, 2014 - 06:15 pm:

I use them for my New Days. Works fine.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Chris Olsen on Sunday, June 01, 2014 - 11:09 am:

I do have the ford service book. The pictures are lousy on my copy.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By ROBERT BERGSTADT on Sunday, June 01, 2014 - 11:16 am:

The thick felts go in past the rear bearings, use a pipe and drive them in, the inner seals go in before the new sleeve with points going to the center then put in new sleeves, Bob


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Huson, Berthoud, Co. on Sunday, June 01, 2014 - 11:44 am:

Chris Olsen:

When installing the new neopreme oil seals (they are good), you should grind off about 1/8" from inside of your bearing race. After grinding off the end of the race the dimple will fit OK.

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Huson, Berthoud, Co. on Sunday, June 01, 2014 - 11:44 am:

Chris Olsen:

When installing the new neopreme oil seals (they are good), you should grind off about 1/8" from inside of your bearing race. After grinding off the end of the race the dimple will fit OK.

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Huson, Berthoud, Co. on Sunday, June 01, 2014 - 11:47 am:

Chris:

I should say grind off about 1/8" from the END of the race.

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jack Daron - Brownsburg IN on Sunday, June 01, 2014 - 01:03 pm:

I think Chaffin's corrected those so it is no longer necessary to do any grinding to install. I know I have never had to.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Chris Olsen on Tuesday, June 03, 2014 - 05:41 pm:

I'm sorry, I still cannot picture how these things fit in. The hole in the heavy felt is so small I can't imagine where it goes. I got where the inner seal goes now, but which way does it face? in towards the diff or out towards the wheel?

A sketch of how these things go ion would be great.
cheers,
chriso


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dan Treace, North FL on Tuesday, June 03, 2014 - 07:06 pm:

The neoprene seals work so well, never have used the big round felts....



Remove the Hyatt bearing and then remove the sleeve.


Install grease shield as shown, lube first so it slides easy.


re-install the sleeve



grease the Hyatt bearing and install it.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark Strange on Tuesday, June 03, 2014 - 07:09 pm:

Here's a Steve Jelf video showing the process:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfxWPsF4KhQ


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Chris Olsen on Tuesday, June 03, 2014 - 07:18 pm:

Perfect! thanks guys


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark Strange on Tuesday, June 03, 2014 - 08:22 pm:

There is one error in Steve's video, the location of the washers on the front of the radius rods, here is a thread that talks about it:

http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/331880/387537.html?1378826234


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