Just spent the best $150 ever!

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2014: Just spent the best $150 ever!
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Warwick Landy on Monday, June 02, 2014 - 08:01 am:

For years I have wrestled with trying to fit old bent exhaust manifolds to various T's. Today I fitted a new one from Langs on my Fordor. From start to finish the job was done is less than an hour. No more leaks and nice and quiet. The manifold I took off had warped nearly half an inch from end to end. It was one that had previously been straightened by heating and bending on a jig. It seems it has reverted to its old shape?? With the Aussie dollar conversion and international postage the manifold comes to around $150 but still a great investment. I highly recommend it,


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tim Wrenn on Monday, June 02, 2014 - 08:08 am:

I can't agree with you more! Fortunately I can get them closer to home with a bit less shipping, I'm actually only 2 hour drive from Snyders, so once in a while a friend and I make a "road trip" and take our list with us, have a nice excursion, see some nice people, and save the shipping (so to speak, at $4 a gallon?) Anyway, yes, nothing like a new, straight exhaust manifold. And I use those albeit a bit more expensive copper rings with the gland "built into them"...they really work nice.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Wells on Monday, June 02, 2014 - 08:40 am:

Also agree. Those new manifolds seem to be top quality and the copper O rings make it even better. I'll save my cost saving repair efforts for other parts of the car.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Alan George Long on Monday, June 02, 2014 - 08:44 am:

Hi Warwick, is that your Fordor (now with a new exhaust manifold)for sale recently??

Alan in West Australia


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Larry Smith on Monday, June 02, 2014 - 10:22 am:

If folks would have used the steel glands like you are supposed to, they wouldn't have warped in the first place!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Seth from NC on Monday, June 02, 2014 - 10:52 am:

Larry mine had steel glands and crush rings and it warped. I didn't know it was warped because I didn't have any kind of exhaust leak. But, once I took it off it absolutely refused to go back on. I ended up getting a new one with the one piece copper tube/ring combos. Went right on with no problem and I have no leaks.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jay - In Northern California on Monday, June 02, 2014 - 11:10 am:

These solid copper combo glands are the way to go provided your exhaust manifold is straight. You can take your manifolds off an on as much as you like without having to replace the copper glands. They are a more expensive, but their long life more then makes up for the price.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Seth from NC on Monday, June 02, 2014 - 12:06 pm:

Those are what I was talking about Jay, those babies are the business. I've had my manifolds on and off a few times and there's been no damage to those. I like how thick and substantial they are.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mike Garrison_Rice Minnesota on Tuesday, June 03, 2014 - 10:54 pm:

I recently spent a couple hours struggling with the all copper rings on a new manifold and a freshly machined block that had been re-ported in the machine shop. The rings are very unforgiving if there is the slightest mismatch. All machinists need tolerances to work with and the all copper rings are close enough to an interference fit to create problems. I ended up taking a file to chamfer both sides of the rings to allow the ports in the block and the manifold to start. Once started they went fine.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Gary London, Camarillo, CA on Tuesday, June 03, 2014 - 11:23 pm:

Jay; I was told those can damage an aluminum intake so I've not tried them, but I have a set. Have you used them with aluminum, iron or both?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Kevin Whelihan on Wednesday, June 04, 2014 - 07:00 am:

New manifolds are the way to go. I put a new one on my rebuilt engine and gave the old one to a blacksmith friend of mine to play with. For around $100, it wasn't worth the aggravation to deal with an old one that didn't fit correctly.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tom Bergmann Sydney - Australia on Wednesday, June 04, 2014 - 08:22 am:

G'Day Warwick
Thanks for sharing your comments on the new manifold and copper all in one gaskets. Hope you at least got the gaskets here. You probably already know they shrink a little with heat, so you need to check and re tighten. I put mine in with a new manifold in 2010 and haven't looked back. I also had file my gaskets like Mike and it took awhile, but it was worth it. Ordered a few more sets as spares.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Peter Taylor on Wednesday, June 04, 2014 - 08:43 am:

The Fordor for sale here on the Forums, is mine. :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Warwick Landy on Wednesday, June 04, 2014 - 09:15 am:

Always good to hear from you Tom! I want to see you on our 2016 Tour , maybe in a Mercury???. I will be testing out the new manifold installation on this weekends 3 day Winter T Club Tour.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Peter Kable on Wednesday, June 04, 2014 - 09:21 am:

Gary, did you ask what the problem was with an aluminium manifold?

I think I would want more than one persons opinion before I dis regarded something like that. Anyone else heard of this one???

I have these with my aluminium manifold, no problems.

Peter, Warwick is in Australia different Fordor.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jay - In Northern California on Wednesday, June 04, 2014 - 11:23 am:

Gary, The copper works fine with my aluminium intake.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Howard D. Dennis on Wednesday, June 04, 2014 - 01:02 pm:

Can anyone give me the outside diameter of the part that goes inside the manifold and block recess? I'd like to see if these will fit my Maxwell.

Howard Dennis


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Craig Anderson, central Wisconsin on Wednesday, June 04, 2014 - 02:06 pm:

1 1/4" ........ :-)
If you plan on using those handy, dandy, one piece jobbers they would probably do a good job sealing even if the holes in your Maxwell were a sixteenth larger.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Howard D. Dennis on Wednesday, June 04, 2014 - 03:19 pm:

Thanks Craig, unfortunately the Maxwell's roughly 1 9/16".

Howard Dennis


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Craig Anderson, central Wisconsin on Wednesday, June 04, 2014 - 11:31 pm:

Howard......does the Maxwell use the "tubes" between the manifold and block too?
I have an idea.......maybe........


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Warwick Landy on Thursday, June 05, 2014 - 08:36 am:

I used the same old rings with a new gasket and some high temp gasket seal. The front port has a slight leak so I will fit new copper rings after this weekends tour. Ran out of time to fix properly. It seals up after it heats up so will have to do for the weekend. Thanks for all your interest and comments. Still think it is the best money I ever spent on a T part. all my original manifolds are rubbish!


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