1909 Ford in Portugal

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Andrew Brand on Wednesday, June 18, 2014 - 03:04 am:

Hi all. Does anybody know some details about this 1909 T in Portugal? Looks to be pre 2500.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NQhRBemGS24

Interesting video - I'm glad he didn't have his thumb around the crank handle for the backfire!

Andrew


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By David Chantrell - Adelaide, Australia on Wednesday, June 18, 2014 - 08:07 am:

Yes, I agree, he is lucky she did not bite him. tell you what though, he can bring it around to my shed so we can work out why it is difficult to start!!!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Richard Eagle Ida Fls on Wednesday, June 18, 2014 - 08:42 am:

They seem to crank Clockwise just as we do here in the States. ;0o

Rich


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Walter Higgins on Wednesday, June 18, 2014 - 11:35 am:

If the crank doesn't get you, those shock absorbers will!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Darel J. Leipold on Wednesday, June 18, 2014 - 02:01 pm:

That is a nice mid year 1909. The side lights are the correct 3 tier E&Js. The head lights are probably original 466 E&Js. So many stateside 1909s have the reproduction E&Js.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Don Skille on Wednesday, June 18, 2014 - 02:51 pm:

I agree with Andrew. It has a lot of feature's of the first 2500 T's. But the radiator is later. Very nice car.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Darel J. Leipold on Wednesday, June 18, 2014 - 04:19 pm:

Andrew, would you point out the pre 2500 unique features that a 1909 around July would not have. I blew up a still to full screen and it looks as if it is a mid year 1909.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Andrew Brand on Wednesday, June 18, 2014 - 06:21 pm:

Hi Darel.

Unfortunately the video doesn't show detail clearly. Hopefully someone has photos of it they can share.

I can see front fenders without the bill, and the low door handle position. Not clear but the rear fender bracket arms seem to come under the fender apron.

Running boards aren't clear but I think they are steel not wood (post 2500).

He puts the crank handle in a leather holder instead of latching it upright. That doesn't mean much though - as Don will tell you the pre 2500 latching mechanism was prone to wearing out.

Andrew


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Don Skille on Thursday, June 19, 2014 - 12:06 am:

I have an early low mileage first 2500 T. The crankcase front end support was reamed rough and oversize so the hand crank bushing, and in the case of the first 2500 car's the part that held the crank up right never worked. Quality control was not good. I had to ream it .015 oversize and make a new oversize bushing/part to hold the crank upright.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Kim Dobbins on Thursday, June 19, 2014 - 12:24 am:

Andrew, it's really hard to tell about the running boards. I can't see the brass trim, but they look flat without ribs. Early horn, flat bill fender. I'd love to know the serial number, pretty sure it's pre 2500.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf, Parkerfield KS on Thursday, June 19, 2014 - 02:12 am:

On the first viewing I was so distracted by the scary cranking that I didn't even look at the car. :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By David Powell on Thursday, June 19, 2014 - 04:36 am:

Please tell me he is not trying to start it by pushing down on the crank!
A sure fire way to get a broken wrist or a dislocated thumb.

David


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Royce in Georgetown TX on Thursday, June 19, 2014 - 07:38 am:

Yes he is. No clue how to crank a T properly. His girlfriend didn't retard the spark when he asked her to either.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Andrew Brand on Thursday, June 19, 2014 - 04:24 pm:

I found a couple of photos of the same car. Not great but they do show 2 things:

The one from the front shows what appear to be screws along the side of the running board.

The one from the rear shows the early type rear fender brackets that bend up under the fender apron.

I'll keep looking.

Andrew




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