Might be the same car.
They are actually runabouts, not roadsters. Nice pictures!
Royce is correct, but if you study original Ford data, such as body parts books, and internal memos from Dearborn, you will see the runabout is called a torpedo into the twenties, and also called roadsters.
Fair go Royce, If you own a 1917 Torpedo, Herb can call them Roadsters! I bet I can find more reference to pre 1920 'Roadsters' than you can find 1917 Torpedoes in any Ford literature!
After watching my car drive past me and out of the garage last week during a stone cold free start, I think "Runabout" is more appropriate.
aren't they perty.
It sure looks like the top one has pin striped wheels.
Ken in Texas
I noticed the striped wheels too, but there is too much glare to get any details.
I don't see the speedometer cable though it has no-bill fenders. Rear tires are not smooth on bottom one. Maybe later picture. Neat pictures.
Ken in Texas
Then, in 1914, as now, in 2014, a dealer might add pin striping to a new car. Ford discontinued factory pinstriping in the 1913 model year.
Ford did't include speedometers in 1914.
In the second photo it was nice of the dealer to gift wrap it.
Do you think there is a gas pump enclosed in the curbside box they are all leaning on?
A nice winged Ford sign in the window
True, Ford didn't include a speedometer as standard equipment for much of the '14 model year, but Ford did offer a $5 rebate to each customer as a speedometer allowance for cars that were not so equipped. Many dealers installed speedometers on Model T's, probably at extra cost to the customer in excess of the $5 credit.
Ford factory photos normally do show speedometers installed on '14 models:
I'm thankful that Royce has shared that photo with us so many times. There are details there for us use for reference that can't be found anywhere. I'm referring to the plating on the bolts and nuts, the location of the binding, and just about everything. I'm pretty sure that car is a very early '14