I have a couple of each and a brass...and this low high thing drives me in circles every time someone asks as the differences are not really that much up front.
So, I made this today...call it a spotters helper...let me know it any glaring mistakes and I'll fix them
Looks good. For a radiator on the car, I measure the core. Low is just under 17" and high a little over 18", as you have it. For a shell off the vehicle, I measure from the ground up to the hole on top, as in your outer measurements.
I'm always amused when guys look at a picture and claim to know whether it's a high or low radiator. I sure can't tell the 1" difference from most pictures, especially if they're from the side or an angle.
I guess growing up with my 24 Coupe gave me some advantage to just 'see' the difference.
I had an older friend in the 1970's who had a 22 low radiator runabout that got me interested in wanting one like he had.
The first thing I noticed was that the front of the car just looked smaller (shorter).
I soon realized the radiator was about 1" shorter.
It was just a little shorter than my 24.
That is a good idea, I've always thought there should be something like that.
Here is a version with the numbers a little larger:
In past threads this is the only one I found:
Bigger numbers work better don't they ?
I didn't see any mention of it here, but isn't there supposed to be a wider flare to the outside (at the rear of the side pieces) on 26-27 steel and brass shells to accommodate the wider hood at the rear where it sets on the firewall? The height of all high shells were the same but the sides flared out more on the 26-27 shells that I have had.
I don't know...don't have a 26-27 to compare with. Not sure how they handled the longer/higher side panel at the front either, other than 'think' the radiator sat higher on the thimbles and added gap for the side to hang.
Someone has dimensions...can see what to add....
This is very helpful information for a beginner a like me. I have always thought I had a low shell on a high radiator. Is that what this picture shows or is something else wrong.
A couple of things
1-How many louvers? (getting ahead of ourselves with Chapter 2! ) If more than 6...that's a 26-27 hood...
2- I 'think' the lower dress strip is just resting there and not mounted?
3- Use a cloth tape, measure from the center of the center rod of the hood to the rod on one hinge side AT THE FRONT
4- Use a cloth tape, measure from the center of the center rod of the hood on one hinge side AT THE REAR
5- Measure a side panel AT THE REAR
With those puzzles answered we can zero in on exactly what you have!
(I sort of think that your thimbles are set up all wrong, ala 17-23....and that your hood is a 26-27...and your shell may be right but mounted all wrong) Furnish numbers, we'll sort it out.
It looks to me like Bill may be right about having a high radiator under a low shell. Note how the radiator extends below. That should be easy to determine with the numbers George and I posted. It's a bit hard to see in that picture, but it also appears that he may indeed have the wrong hood.
This is helpful information to have in my files.
Bill, you have a real mixture there. The windscreen pillars indicate an improved car of 1926-7. That should have a high radiator. The hood should be the type with multiple louvres, not just 6.
Your radiator shell does appear to be a low shell. Hence the exposed bottom tank. Even if it sits at the right height at the top, the hood will still not fit correctly, because the sides of the low shell are square to the radiator. The high shell sides flare out to follow the taper of the hood, effectively making the hood wider at the front.
Your pan mount on the front cross member is even earlier, the two U Bolt type, while the fenders are also earlier than 26-7.
Not trying to be picky, just helping to sort things for you.
Allan from down under.
Also, all the steel and brass 26-27 shells had round holes for the shell lacing. Up through 25, the shells had square lacing holes that were slotted to the back edge of the shell.
Saving that picture in my archives. Thanks, Jim!
I've got a tractor with a Model T engine, but it doesn't have a shell. Now I have the measurements needed to find the missing parts.
George. What I see is a 26-27 body and windshield. A high radiator, A low radiator shell, I think a 26-27 hood (its hard to tell but I think I see small louvers and not the larger ones) a good side pic will help. and then 17-23 fenders (no flange at front) I also see an early front spring clamp with the 2 u-bots and not the single Y-type clamp. The Y-type clamp should have the small bolt hole in it for the lower radiator front shroud on 24-27. I would suggest to get a high 26-27 style shell, change the front spring clamp to the y-type and add the lower radiator apron. You could drive it like that and then change the fenders to 26-27 style later. (the frame may not have all the correct holes in it for 26-27 ??? if it is earlier) The correct 26-27 frame will have the long cross member for the rear spring. The main thing is "its yours" do as you please, drive it, and have fun ......
I meant to post for William and not George, (old timer moment again)
Thanks to everyone for your helpful responses. I do have a '26-'27 body on an early frame. The engine is 1919 (2968569) also the transmission is 1919. Everything is non starter. I will be putting a restored '19 body on the frame this summer. I posted pics of the restored body a while ago (June 13). I do not know how to post links to previous postings. Someone on here has given me instructions, but I still can't get it to work. I inherited the car as it is, along with the un-restored '19 body. Here is a pic of the car as it is now.
William, you should get in touch with Nick Stanley, he has a high radiator shell and is looking for a low shell, look near the bottom of this thread:
Actually I will need the low shell and a low radiator when I put the '19 body on. Then I will have a high radiator and a '26 - '27 hood for sale.