Old Photo - 1925 Model T Touring Cut Away

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2014: Old Photo - 1925 Model T Touring Cut Away
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jay - In Northern California on Monday, June 23, 2014 - 06:42 pm:


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Richard Eagle Ida Fls on Monday, June 23, 2014 - 06:52 pm:

Very detailed. Looks like a 1926 though.
Thanks
Rich


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tim Wrenn on Monday, June 23, 2014 - 07:12 pm:

If it were a '26 it wouldn't have a coil box on the firewall.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Greg Whaley, Georgetown Ontario Canada on Monday, June 23, 2014 - 07:23 pm:

Or small pedals...:-)

Great picture


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Barry Fowler - Eagle River, Alaska on Monday, June 23, 2014 - 07:24 pm:

That right front fender is a 26.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Henry Petrino in Modesto, CA on Monday, June 23, 2014 - 07:25 pm:

Yeah, but that right front fender is certainly a '26/'27 fender.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Semprez-Templeton, CA on Monday, June 23, 2014 - 07:30 pm:

Artistic license.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Kevin Whelihan on Monday, June 23, 2014 - 07:37 pm:

Gas tank is under the seat. Not a '26.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dan Treace, North FL on Monday, June 23, 2014 - 07:38 pm:

Composite T

Gas tank under seat, cowl mount coil box, small drum rear axle, narrow pedals, early asbestos wrapped muffler with tapered tail pipe, and TT long clutch release cam!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Wells on Monday, June 23, 2014 - 07:49 pm:

'26 tailight, pre '20 round gas tank.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Henry Petrino in Modesto, CA on Monday, June 23, 2014 - 07:58 pm:

So, considering what many of us have experienced with our personal T's, it's a pretty accurate drawing, right?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Frank van Ekeren (Australia) on Monday, June 23, 2014 - 07:59 pm:

And still left hand drive!! looks and sounds like a parts mix that would have been built in Australia!!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Wells on Monday, June 23, 2014 - 08:33 pm:

Sad but true Henry.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Gary H. White - Sheridan, MI on Monday, June 23, 2014 - 08:41 pm:

Looks like a poster. I'd like one.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hap Tucker in Sumter SC on Monday, June 23, 2014 - 09:15 pm:

Jay,

This is where a little more information would be really helpful. If the illustration was drawn in 1925 -- then it could have been of the "Australian" model. Which was the code name Ford used dealing with the development of the "Improved Car."

If it was drawn after 1927 -- someone mixed up several different years as mentioned previously.

Based on the smooth flowing hood into the cowl, the cut out shape of the rear doors to clear the rear fender [only on the 26-27 touring as well as the 1924-25 UK drop frame tourings], windshield curved at the bottom, the right front fender, the body appears to be the 1926-27 style (1926 based on no headlight cross bar).

I suspect the illustration comes from one of the 1970s or later "illustrated" car books -- either for kids, young readers, or a coffee table book. But that is just a gut feel without any data to back it up.

If it were an actual car -- I guess it would be a real "Johnny Cash" and it still would be a lot of fun to drive. And think of the debates the bystanders could have over what year it really was.... For the song -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1-zzJnKtDg and for the a photo of the promotional Johnny Cash car see: http://www.motorbooks.com/motorbooks-blog/A-49-and-ndash70-Cadillac-Built-for-Jo hnny-Cash-and-nbsp/183

Respectfully submitted,

Hap l9l5 cut off


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By George_Cherry Hill NJ on Monday, June 23, 2014 - 09:16 pm:

You guys are playing the purist angle once again! That looks like a car built at one of the branches on June 15, 1925 to me, somewhere between 1 PM and 3 PM...:-):-):-)

One of the late Bruce favorite quotes was actually a 're-quote'...from the last line of the following full text...

It is also extremely important to remember that all Fords of a given year were not exactly the same. Modifications were made at the factory at Highland Park that were not necessarily made on cars assembled at the branches, and vise-versa.

Even cars made at the same plant could (and did) vary from one to the next. Variations in the design of various components of the car, due to the varying suppliers of some of the parts, must also be considered.

Keep in mind a comment made by a restorer some years ago:
“How can we restore these things correctly when Ford never made them correctly?”


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jay - In Northern California on Monday, June 23, 2014 - 09:40 pm:

The original is a 18 x 25 print that had no captioning. I took a photo of it with my digital camera and reduced it to post here.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Tomaso - Milton,WA on Monday, June 23, 2014 - 09:55 pm:

'26 body, fenders, windshield & headlamps on an earlier chassis - small drum rear axle, centerline spindle bodies, straight front axle, etc.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Larry Smith on Tuesday, June 24, 2014 - 12:54 am:

Come on guys! It's only an artists rendering.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hal Davis-SE Georgia on Tuesday, June 24, 2014 - 07:11 am:

They all probably make mid year changes, but seems like Ford is worse than others. I once had a '79 F-100 that loved to go through U-joints. I couldn't get one to last more than a couple of years. Every time I went to buy one, the counter man gave me the wrong U-joint. I don't remember now whether it was the '78 or the '80 that fit it, but we always had to look at the next year older or newer to get the right one. Looks like Ford's been doing it since the 20's, or before, and probably still does.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Gary H. White - Sheridan, MI on Tuesday, June 24, 2014 - 10:34 am:

Anyone ever mount a '26 - '27 front fender on an earlier car? Would like to know how to do it.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Roger Karlsson, southern Sweden on Tuesday, June 24, 2014 - 11:08 am:

With 26/27 frame and fender brackets and by drilling a few holes and riveting a few rivets mounting 26/27 fenders on a earlier car can be done - but faking it on a drawing might be easier :-)

Maybe someone was asked to make an up to date cut away drawing of a Ford car in 1926 and was able to save time by reusing an older sectional drawing of a Model T?

This cut away may have ben gradually updated over several years - there are features from various years on the chassis as have been mentioned already.


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